"The" Amendment ....

**Vern Humphrey** · 02-21-2018, 06:59

Originally posted by blackhawknj

And if someone with a valid driver's license and a street legal car goes on a killing spree, running over pedestrians.....
Like all this talk about "Ghost Guns". The pistol registered to your long gone great uncle, the rifle handed down from Great Grandpa, the war souvenir your father brought back, the ones you bought from the widow.....

Don't feed the trolls.

**m1ashooter** · 02-21-2018, 06:59

Why is it that people are willing to compromise on the 2nd Amendment but not on any other amendment? I am not willing to compromise the rights given to us by the Bill of Rights. If the people of the United States want to change the Constitution then there is a process for that.

**clintonhater** · 02-21-2018, 09:29

Originally posted by m1ashooter

Why is it that people are willing to compromise on the 2nd Amendment but not on any other amendment?

Actually, the 1st Am. is being torn to shreds on most college campuses: un-PC speakers being denied the right to speak, if not physically assaulted when they try to, countless "unmentionable" subjects, etc. One of their favorite slogans is "speech is violence." You didn't know that?

**swampyankee** · 02-21-2018, 09:31

Originally posted by Sandpebble

OK... option B ...

Lets just continue on as is until the Constitution is amended and we will all be "enjoying " our fire arms wrapped in plastic bags under the back yard .... laugh that off.

The joke here is you claiming you're in the shooting sports. PLease!!! Everyone here has heard enough of your crap to know you hate guns the military and the country.

**togor** · 02-21-2018, 10:07

Originally posted by swampyankee

The joke here is you claiming you're in the shooting sports. PLease!!! Everyone here has heard enough of your crap to know you hate guns the military and the country.

Sandpebble doesn't hate everyone's guns, Swampyankee. Just yours.

**bostonbound** · 02-21-2018, 10:57

Originally posted by togor

Sandpebble doesn't hate everyone's guns, Swampyankee. Just yours.

Comments like this is why I can't dislike you, even when we disagree.

"If you can't laugh about it, you shouldn't have volunteered!"

**Sandpebble** · 02-21-2018, 12:38

Originally posted by S.A. Boggs

There is a way, somewhat Draconian in thought. Attach a stiff penalty to any miscreant who uses a firearm such as NO BOND allowed, 20 year addition to any sentence imposed, the 20 years is MANDATORY no judge/jury can set aside. Even if the initial charge is reduced, the firearms charge stands. If nothing else it will get the offender off the street for a serious length of time. Punish the user, not what is used. Anybody disagree and is so, state a better idea.
Sam

Well I do agree with this post Sam ... harsh and harsher still . Kind of what I meant about following NRA's safe gun handling advice.... break those safe gun handling rules... go to jail.. they should be law.

However... what we have now is similar to Muslim suicide terrorists ... most of these mass shoters seem to be going into this knowing they'll get killed , caught... or suicide themselves. That is why I'm not pro armed teachers.... I don't think for a minute that armed teachers are going to gun down any assailants before the damage is done.... and will likely be the first target themselves

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Originally posted by Vern Humphrey

Don't feed the trolls.

Finally a thread where people are actually discussing something and as usual all you can offer is your mindless fear of an opposing viewpoint..... give it up

**Sandpebble** · 02-21-2018, 12:46

Originally posted by swampyankee

The joke here is you claiming you're in the shooting sports. PLease!!! Everyone here has heard enough of your crap to know you hate guns the military and the country.

Sorry Swampy .... I was a Mud Gunner ... know what that is? ... I shot Across the Course 600 yd. Service Rifle for many years .... made Expert with the Garand before moving on to the AR ...

even won a few matches and still have the old tarnished medals .... weren't too shabby in small bore prone.... shot at Perry in fact and placed pretty high at the 2nd annual Garand match also at Camp Perry ..

so thats my claim... whats yours ?

**aintright** · 02-21-2018, 03:13

Sandpebble , for a little I thought you were saying something meaningful and sensible . But when you went into the boohoo mode about failing your friend , then I realized you are either booze buzzed or just chattering to have something to do .
As said , no laws were broken and I am sure you are aware of that , so why the sharade ?
Kenneth

**Sandpebble** · 02-21-2018, 04:16

Blown chance ..

Originally posted by aintright

Sandpebble , for a little I thought you were saying something meaningful and sensible . But when you went into the boohoo mode about failing your friend , then I realized you are either booze buzzed or just chattering to have something to do .
As said , no laws were broken and I am sure you are aware of that , so why the sharade ?
Kenneth

wasn't about breaking the law... it was about an opportunity to show a non gun owner how responsible we are... or aren't .

Once purchased a firearm at the CMP store for a guy I thought I knew ... when I got back to town he'd been jailed for beating his wife again ...

luckily I ended up keeping the rifle .... but another display of irrisponsibility .... and almost breaking the law ...

**aintright** · 02-22-2018, 12:31

You really are out there .
Kenneth

**leftyo** · 02-22-2018, 06:39

Originally posted by Sandpebble

wasn't about breaking the law... it was about an opportunity to show a non gun owner how responsible we are... or aren't .

Once purchased a firearm at the CMP store for a guy I thought I knew ... when I got back to town he'd been jailed for beating his wife again ...

luckily I ended up keeping the rifle .... but another display of irrisponsibility .... and almost breaking the law ...

so you had every intention of breaking the law, and you are going to sit here and tell us how we should be acting?!!! take a hike!

**Tommy** · 02-22-2018, 07:23

San Pablo, I never met a veteran who fought for socialism. Your ideas of change will not happen.

Tommy
Ietnam veteran

**togor** · 02-22-2018, 08:00

Originally posted by Tommy

San Pablo, I never met a veteran who fought for socialism. Your ideas of change will not happen.

Tommy
Ietnam veteran

Tommy you're too young.

Years ago, living in Minneapolis, I met a guy who ran his own auto repair shop. He'd been doing it a long time too. His specialty was keeping old cars going for not too much money, which is a pretty in-demand service in northern cities where rust causes serious depreciation. I had an old Plymouth and I wanted to talk to a mechanic about some stuff, and a friend referred me to "Jack".

Jack was a draftee in WW2, saw front line service in the ETO in WW2. Saw how the Nazis were. He's telling me this right out of the gate, and I'm wondering "where you going with this, Jack?" Where? To explain that the first thing he did when he got back to the USA was join the Communist party, and he just wanted me to know that up front in case that was going to be a problem. Was he still a Commie? I don't know, probably, but he was known for not ripping people off, and he didn't have the fanciest shop in the world, so maybe he practiced a little of what he preached.

The point is, one could say that leftys pulled the lion's share of the duty from a sheer manpower perspective in beating back the Axis forces. Oh, did the left in America sit on its hands between Nazi-Soviet pact and Barbarossa? H*ll yes, no doubt. Transparently shameful and self-serving, Americans taking their political cues from the leader of Russia (Stalin then). But once it was on, they did fight.

**clintonhater** · 02-22-2018, 08:45

Originally posted by togor

But once it was on, they did fight.

Well, why not? In so doing, not only were they fighting their enemy fascism (in bed, don't forget, with capitalism!), but also helping their friend and hero, Stalin; so of course they were eager to kill Nazis--and just as eager to justify Stalin's purges, gulags, annexation of eastern Europe, etc.