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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    Interesting article written by Ann Coulter

    She said,
    "But imagine if we could cut our mass shootings in half?
    There have been about 34 mass shootings since 2000. Forty-seven percent — 16 — were committed by first- and second-generation immigrants, i.e. people who never would have been here but for Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act.
    And the immigrant mass shootings have been some of the most spectacular ones, such as Fort Hood and San Bernardino. Two of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history, at Virginia Tech in 2007 and at the Pulse Nightclub in 2016, were committed by first- and second-generation immigrants, i.e., people who were in this country because Teddy was pouting in his room and refused to come out until he got his own legacy.
    (Excluded from both lists: the Las Vegas shooting, because law enforcement has released nothing but lies about it, so that shooting remains unclassifiable; family dispute shootings; targeted assassinations of police officers; and shootings on Indian reservations.)
    Here’s the list of immigrant mass shootings, defined as a shooting at the same general time and location, not during the commission of another crime, that leaves at least four people dead — i.e. no gangland shootings, no “man kills family, then self” and no drug deals gone bad.
    On account of the Rule of Journalism that permits the word “immigrant” to be used only in sentences with the word “valedictorian,” you may not have heard of some of these mass shootings at all.
    1) Omar Mateen, son of Afghan immigrants, killed 49 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando on June 12, 2016.

    2) First- and second-generation Pakistani immigrants Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik opened fire at a community center Christmas party in San Bernardino, California, on Dec. 2, 2015, killing 14 people.

    3) English immigrant Christopher Harper-Mercer killed 9 people at Umpqua Community College in southwest Oregon on Oct. 1, 2015.

    4) Kuwaiti immigrant Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez shot and killed five people in attacks on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tennessee, on July 16, 2015.

    5) Second-generation Malaysian immigrant Elliot Rodger killed six people on May 23, 2014, around the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara.

    6) Second-generation immigrant John Zawahri opened fire at his Southern California home and later at the campus of Santa Monica College on June 7, 2013, killing five in all. (The New York Times never mentioned that he was the child of Lebanese immigrants. The Times didn’t even mention that his father used to beat up his mother, despite that paper’s usual heightened interest in stories about men being mean to women.)

    7) Cuban immigrant Pedro Alberto Vargas fatally shot six people in his apartment complex in Hialeah, Florida, on July 26, 2013.

    8) Probable Barbadian immigrant Aaron Alexis shot and killed 12 people inside the Washington Navy Yard on Sept. 16, 2013. (See this.)

    9) South Korean immigrant One L. Goh opened fire at Oikos University in Oakland, California, killing seven people on April 2, 2012.

    10) Mexican immigrant Eduardo Sencion shot up an IHOP in Carson City, Nevada, on Sept. 6, 2011, killing four people — three National Guardsmen and a 67-year-old woman.
    11) Second-generation immigrant Nidal Malik Hasan, son of Palestinian immigrants, killed 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, on Nov. 5, 2009.

    12) Vietnamese immigrant Jiverly Wong shot up the Binghamton, New York, American Civic Association on April 3, 2009, killing 13.

    13) Bosnian immigrant Sulejman Talovic fatally shot five people at the Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City on Feb. 12, 2007.

    14) Seung-Hui Cho, a South Korean immigrant, slaughtered 32 people at Virginia Tech on April 16, 2007.

    15) Hmong immigrant Chai Soua Vang killed six hunters in northern Wisconsin on Nov. 21, 2004.

    16) Mexican immigrant Salvador Tapia shot up the Windy City Core Supply warehouse in Chicago in 2003, killing six of his former co-workers.

    If you missed your favorite immigrant mass shooting, please note that I excluded Jamaican immigrant Colin Ferguson (Long Island Railroad massacre in 1993); Nigerian immigrant Peter Odighizuwa (Appalachian School of Law shooting in 2002); Haitian illegal immigrant Kesler Dufrene (North Miami shooting in 2012); and Nigerian immigrant Henry Williams Obotetukudo (Bronx-Lebanon Hospital shooting in 2017). We are only counting mass shootings since 2000 that left at least four people dead.
    First- and second-generation immigrants have committed more than 40 percent of all mass shootings since 2000. I know we’ve been admitting Third World immigrants at a breakneck pace, but I don’t think immigrants make up nearly half the population yet.
    Once we exclude the immigrant mass shooters, a clearer pattern emerges. The typical American perpetrator is a young man with paranoid schizophrenia — or, as we’re now euphemistically calling it, “autism” — probably exacerbated by pot, a deadly combo platter.
    An immigration moratorium and widespread deportations would not only cut mass shootings in half, but it would also free up the FBI’s time to focus on these delusional young men with the terrifying stare, who hear voices no one else hears."
    Young men like Nikolas Cruz.
    Ann Coulter is a syndicated columnist and lawyer.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/21/am...ass-shootings/
  • Clark Howard
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 2105

    #2
    Makes way too much sense to elicit any response from our resident dems. Regards, Clark

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10583

      #3
      I have always like Ann Coulter. She has always been an anti-illegal advocate. I once suggested that she should run for political office or be appointed by Trump into a position where she could do some good and got hammered pretty good on this forum and it wasn't by the stooges.

      What's not to like about her?

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      • clintonhater
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 5220

        #4
        Originally posted by Allen
        I once suggested that she should run for political office or be appointed by Trump into a position where she could do some good and got hammered pretty good on this forum and it wasn't by the stooges.
        The kind of positions in which she "could do some good," would be limited, but the one in which she'd be UNBEATABLE is Press Secretary, because the national press is clearly the "Opposition Party," even more relentlessly hostile than the Dems. Why the Trump adm. stopped using that perfectly accurate term, after limited use in the campaign, defeats my understanding, because if it was a attempt to reduce the bitter enmity of the press, it failed miserably.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Why is the Vegas shooting excluded? Because it's an unconfirmed rumor as whether or not it actually happened? Memory hole stuff.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6


            These people get a higher number by far Coulter. They publish their criteria. Coulter seems to exclude many. But as Leftyo says, dead is dead. And shot is shot. It seems hard for Ann to understand that people don't like getting shot at.

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            • JB White
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 13371

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              http://www.gunviolencearchive.org

              These people get a higher number by far Coulter. They publish their criteria. Coulter seems to exclude many. But as Leftyo says, dead is dead. And shot is shot. It seems hard for Ann to understand that people don't like getting shot at.
              Interesting link but don't use it to change the context of the OP. Coulters article focuses of a very distinct set of parameters involving mass shootings in the US and how many of those shootings involved recent immigrants from troubled parts of the world. "Wanna cut the numbers by nearly 50%...?" She openly discounted the LV shooting because that one was outside the norm in many ways.
              Please, don't inject totals from all shootings and hope to make an argument.

              It's akin to traffic deaths where occupants were not wearing seat belts, then injecting the total number of traffic deaths including pedestrians. It doesn't fit.
              As I said, it's an interesting link, very informative, but doesn't fit the gist of this thread at this time. Let it go off on a tangent in that direction first.
              2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


              **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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              • leftyo

                #8
                https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a9&oe=5B49D445
                just remember all the liberals claim its for the children!
                Last edited by Guest; 02-22-2018, 07:01.

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                • barretcreek
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6065

                  #9
                  Teddy K's goal was to swamp American with more immigrants than could assimilate. My experience has been the only immigrants who have smoothly assimilated into our culture have been those from former British colonies, especially India, where there are similar legal systems and the concept of civil discourse. YMMV.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Well JB, I guess. But Ann's angle is to conflate mass shootings and immigration by excluding data points that she doesn't like. Far from being brilliant it is stupid and counterproductive. The obvious problem with doing that with a public data set is that someone else can play the same game for their own ends. Cut that same source data differently and clearly the mass-shooting problem is middle aged white guys with no college degree. You've just reminded me why I have such a disdain for talking heads of all political stripes.
                    Last edited by togor; 02-22-2018, 08:09.

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                    • JB White
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 13371

                      #11
                      You've just reminded me why I have such a disdain for talking heads of all political stripes.
                      Yup, but keep in mind it's just an editorial same as from the other side. What she did do however, is bring up something which is being intentionally overlooked by the rest of the MSM. No telling if it will ever factor in but it could.
                      I myself never bothered to tally who did what and where they were from. Only "Here's ANOTHER one". Now I have a reference to actual numbers and it looks like a good one.
                      You should save that link of yours. It'll be handy to use as a cross reference someday.
                      2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                      **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        Far from being brilliant it is stupid and counterproductive.
                        Not in a world in which the other side, the "Opposition Party," with hundreds of talking heads to her one, employs the same tactics! One of their favorite phony statistics is the "death of children by gunfire" number, which is calculated by defining anyone under 21 as a "child," AND including in the total criminal gang-banging fatalities.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          It's stupid and counterproductive when the other side does it too.

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                          • clintonhater
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 5220

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            It's stupid and counterproductive when the other side does it too.
                            The difference is, she's pissin' into the wind; the "other side" IS the wind! She has a radio show, the other side has all TV news, except Fox. Look like an equal playing field to you?

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