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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Arming Teachers not a good idea ...

    Firstly, the teacher could freeze at precisely the wrong moment.
    Secondly, if a shooter entered a classroom, thirty or so kids
    would be between the teacher and the would be assassin.
    In the chaos, kids would no doubt stand up getting in the way.
    What's needed is a Veteran, only one entrance to school, others
    closed off. Check the kids as they enter, then lock up.
    All windows on ground level should be blocked against entry.
    He could have a ittle office with coffee pot and surveillance cameras.
  • SloopJohnB
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1395

    #2
    Veterans for sure. Qualified, trained and certified teachers also an idea.

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    • Sandpebble
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 2196

      #3
      I agree with DT.... we can set it up so that no guns can enter a courthouse can't we? ...

      And we had to do that to protect people in a buildings allready full of armed police officers .... what do we really expect out of a school teacher ?

      Arming school teachers won't change a thing... not to mention the fact that not all mass murders are committed at schools .
      Last edited by Sandpebble; 02-22-2018, 04:34.

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      • leftyo

        #4
        there are always negatives to anything, and what if's, but we can look at the israeli's who have armed teachers, and take note that they do not suffer from school shootings. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/A...cle.aspx/21714
        Last edited by Guest; 02-22-2018, 04:55.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Financial or criminal liability for the teacher who guesses wrong.

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          • Sandpebble
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 2196

            #6
            Originally posted by leftyo
            there are always negatives to anything, and what if's, but we can look at the israeli's who have armed teachers, and take note that they do not suffer from school shootings. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/A...cle.aspx/21714
            Not a fair comparison ... Isreal is a nation of soldiers ... and we seem more like a nation of star struck Rambo Wannabes ... quite a difference

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            • leftyo

              #7
              Originally posted by Sandpebble
              Not a fair comparison ... Isreal is a nation of soldiers ... and we seem more like a nation of star struck Rambo Wannabes ... quite a difference
              your right of course, sadly we are a nation filled with many people like yourself who want to preach how "we" should show anti gunners how good we are, while you actually admit that you were willing to commit a crime as a strawman purchaser. guess what, your opinions on anything to do with guns or rights, no longer matter!

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              • Sandpebble
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 2196

                #8
                Originally posted by leftyo
                your right of course, sadly we are a nation filled with many people like yourself who want to preach how "we" should show anti gunners how good we are, while you actually admit that you were willing to commit a crime as a strawman purchaser. guess what, your opinions on anything to do with guns or rights, no longer matter!
                Then simply don't respond .....

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                • leftyo

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sandpebble
                  Then simply don't respond .....
                  oh no, ill respond if i feel the urge, its just that you being a willing criminal, particullarily one that affects gun owners, your opinion has no merit! sometimes its sorta fun just to point out that someone is a jackwad who likes to preach but its actually scum.

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                  • Sandpebble
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 2196

                    #10
                    Originally posted by leftyo
                    oh no, ill respond if i feel the urge, its just that you being a willing criminal, particullarily one that affects gun owners, your opinion has no merit! sometimes its sorta fun just to point out that someone is a jackwad who likes to preach but its actually scum.
                    And of course all of your opinions hold merit ... because you've never admitted to anything .... right ?... jackwad ?

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                    • leftyo

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sandpebble
                      And of course all of your opinions hold merit ... because you've never admitted to anything .... right ?... jackwad ?
                      let me put it in another way, decent gun owners dont need your kind telling us how to act, especially when you actually admit to attempting to break the law. we dont need your kind!to put it in simpler words for you, having attempted to commit a felony, you should have no rights to a firearm!

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                      • JB White
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 13371

                        #12
                        Arming teachers simply because they are teachers is a terrible idea. Allowing teachers who might be qualified to carry and trained as such...maybe not so bad. What will you get? Perhaps one or two at best. At least they would have a fighting chance instead of using themselves as a shield for others. THOSE are the teachers who probably should have been allowed to carry. Too late now.
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                        • Allen
                          Moderator
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 10583

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JB White
                          Arming teachers simply because they are teachers is a terrible idea. Allowing teachers who might be qualified to carry and trained as such...maybe not so bad. What will you get? Perhaps one or two at best. At least they would have a fighting chance instead of using themselves as a shield for others. THOSE are the teachers who probably should have been allowed to carry. Too late now.
                          Agree. I've said in the past that I would trust guns in the hands of students more so than in the hands of some teachers. It's not for everyone. In some cases the assailant could get the gun from the teacher and use it for his cause.

                          There just isn't a cut and dry solution. With all the hundreds of students in a school along with all the chaos a clear shot at an assailant isn't too likely.

                          All I see is improvements to help reduce the likelihood of this happening again like all schools having airport style metal detectors, exit doors that can not be entered from outside, teachers being more competent, each classroom having radio contact or panic buttons that connect to the principles office or elsewhere, having terrorist drills as well as the usual fire drills, having a real sheriffs deputy or other law enforcement personnel present at the school that is highly visible and etc...

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                          • DarylBruce
                            Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 77

                            #14
                            I am a veteran, have a concealed weapons permanent and a 33 year retired school teacher. I would not carry in the class room. Teachers have way to many distraction and liabilities to add being armed to the list. When braking up a fight between High School students is only one example.
                            PS. I am always reluctant to post on this site because argumentum ad hominem is not a substitute for reason.

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                            • Major Tom
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6181

                              #15
                              Arming teachers is a bad idea even if they get training. They will freeze and probably injure an innocent person. I recall the first time (in 'Nam) when a armed gook came at us. All the newbies froze and they had the best training the Army could give them.

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