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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    The evidence used to obtain the FISA warrant ...

    The Lady FISA Judge who approved the "Dossier" warrant has said that
    she can't release that information - only the President can do that.
    However, she has no objections to it's release. So, where is it ?
    Surely, exposing it's content would settle the matter one way or the
    other as to whether it was composed of innuendos, outright lies,
    both, or actual evidence. Possibly the President hasn't been informed
    about this yet, or maybe he's just too busy dodging media bullets.
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    Toast.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #3
      Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
      Toast.
      This is exactly why I ignore this troll.
      "Toast" - that must have taken a lot of thought.

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      • Sandpebble
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2017
        • 2196

        #4
        doesn't seem like you ignored him ....

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #5
          Originally posted by Sandpebble
          doesn't seem like you ignored him ....
          Toast.

          Its because I'm not a non-gun owning troll posting front page DailyMail articles and complaining about how other people respond within the thread. We already have one of those.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • Sandpebble
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 2196

            #6
            Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
            Toast.

            Its because I'm not a non-gun owning troll posting front page DailyMail articles and complaining about how other people respond within the thread. We already have one of those.
            Ah yes ... The Daily Mail .... that very anti American rag that "someone" keeps linking us to under the premise of being pro American ....

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              DT, you've excluded the possibility that things with the warrant are in order, that it's on the level? If so, why?

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                DT, you've excluded the possibility that things with the warrant are in order, that it's on the level? If so, why?
                No I didn't. Read it again. Note "or actual evidence"
                Last edited by dogtag; 03-05-2018, 06:54.

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                • bruce
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3759

                  #9
                  Re: On the level. So, had the exact same process used in obtaining this warrant been used to obtain a warrant to investigate the campaign/administration of clinton, the squatter, or hillary's foundation, etc., would you be all warm and fuzzy with that? Would it be in your opinion perfectly legitimate and above board, i.e., on the level? A further question. If operatives/agents/govt. employees with an avowed commitment to an agenda hostile to a particular candidate/administration facilitated/managed/moved a warrant/investigation against that particular candidate/administration, would this be a problem if that hostile individual and any legal action associated with them had been directed at any of the previous demokrat candidates/administration? Would it be "on the level," or would it be a outrage perpetrated under color of law? Sincerely. bruce.
                  " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Bruce: I personally have no reason to objectively believe the FISA process was corrupted in the matter of Trump's campaign. Do you? Objectively? As for HRC...is that even a FISA matter? I think this stuff just needs to play out. As for calling Obama "the squatter". I'd think that would be beneath you, but apparently not. We both understand the history there.

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                    • bruce
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3759

                      #11
                      Re: Corrupted. Have read available material from common popular sites. Have not sought to research scholarly sites, etc. simply b/c in my opinion, this current brouhaha is just another instance of political cross/dagger procedures as practiced time out of mind by any and all parties up to and including the demokrats and the Republicans. It is what it is. I do not expect integrity in these processes. I have yet to see such a process that as not predicated by one side as a weapon by which to assault an opponent.

                      As to the term "Squatter," I use it in precisely the manner commonly understood, i.e., someone occupying real estate w/o any legitimate claim. The rational is simple. I have not ever been willing to accord to the previous executive any sense of legitimacy. It is no different than when demokrats with clenched fists exploded in self-righteous rage when Bush became president b/c demokrats in Florida were not allowed to keep searching until they could find a trunk full of votes (ala Frankin). Now the demokrats are again in a state of high outrage as their heir apparent is not occupying the White House b/c of a failure to allow for the unexpected votes of deplorables in otherwise secure blue states that ended up going red on 11/9/16. So they do everything they can to muddy the waters, etc. It is no different than when the Squatter was challenged on his birth, etc. Interestingly, it is a matter of interest that his records, papers, etc. have not been made public pertaining to his educational process, etc. Do wonder if these materials will be available for scholarly review at his presidential library. The questions raised as to his personal associations with questionable individuals, his positions, etc. were during his administration panned by the left-wing press as merely politically motivated attacks. Without exception, demokrats refused to support any efforts at all to find the truth of any questions raised. Now the left uses the exact same methodology to attack Trump since he is the Republican President, since the Republicans control the House and Senate, since the federal judiciary is being filled with conservative jurists and since for the time being, demokrats are powerless to stop even a nominee to the SCOTUS from being approved and seated. Sincerely. bruce.
                      " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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