High School Students Suspended After Family Trip To Gun Range

[sid]

In New Jersey, of course.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/18/uproar-after-new-jersey-high-school-allegedly-suspends-students-over-gun-range-photo.html

[togor]

The uproar should be over illiterates who cannot read past the title. 3/4ths of the way down the article, even Fox quotes the superintendent as saying the rumor on social media is incorrect. Sid the troll.

[Dick Hosmer]

The uproar should be over illiterates who cannot read past the title. 3/4ths of the way down the article, even Fox quotes the superintendent as saying the rumor on social media is incorrect. Sid the troll.

And, if you read ALL the way to the bottom, you will find a couple of disquieting points which apparently are true - so - as is often the case - TOGOR is the real troll, though nowhere in the league of some others.

[togor]

And, if you read ALL the way to the bottom, you will find a couple of disquieting points which apparently are true - so - as is often the case - TOGOR is the real troll, though nowhere in the league of some others.

Long time since you've been a kid, Dick. School policies covering outside activities are common everywhere now. Yes, if some kid is jacking off elsewhere in town, waving a pistol that he shouldn't have, the school is covered. In the Bible Belt it's going to be the same thing with alcohol.

When I was in high school, I could drink beer my senior year in public after turning 18, even during track season. Blessed days! But it wasn't the kids themselves who since push all these rule changes, but rather the crusty old farts who don't want kids to have fun!

Back to the OP, the kids aren't suspended so BFD.

[Tommy]

Sigh, the second amendment is clear! What more do these so called learned academic fools need?

Tommy

[togor]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I think the First Amendment is much better written.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Speaking of the First Amendment, Trump's use of NDAs on White House Senior Staff, with damages to be paid to the government for public disclosure of the People's Business, is wildly unconstitutional. Imagine if Obama tried this! Fox would be melting down! But with Trump, nary a murmur.

[clintonhater]

And, if you read ALL the way to the bottom, you will find a couple of disquieting points which apparently are true...

True about the possibility of suspension, which, if some kid with access to a gun is bragging about what he might do to his enemies at school or others, is not only reasonable, but demands immediate police intervention. Merely suspending the kid & nothing else--essentially what happened at Parkland--might only incite him to carry out an attack.

[RED]

So if your high school kid participates in the Olympics Biathalon competition...

... he (or she) needs to be kicked out of high school. And, that's just fine with Nancy Peelosi, togor, Maxine Waters, Roadking, Sand pecker, Boxer, Leftalot, Feinstein and the other Stooges.

[togor]

Was anyone suspended or not? Red, your senescence is showing.

[TomSudz]

Was anyone suspended or not? Red, your senescence is showing.

According to the article, yes. Two students, five days in-school suspension. The school district denies the suspensions are over the photo, but won't clarify.

the school’s policies allow suspending students for up to a year if they are "reported to be in possession of a weapon of any type for any reason or purpose on or off school grounds."

So every high school kid at the steak house using a knife could be suspended. That's a very broad policy. I hope no kids from that district hunt.

[JB White]

Togor, this is a case where school officials are clearly taking totalitarian control over private lives during off-hours. Granted, the policy of possessing weapons "on or off" school grounds is needed if officials wish to get involved with minors packing heat across the street etc...but that is a tool to use to be able to REPORT an actual crime. It does not give them any right to dictate, prosecute, or persecute. It's akin to saying someone cannot eat a ham sandwich on Saturday.
What people are overlooking in terms of rights goes well beyond the 2A. What of this excuse about posting on social media? What's this the left is always screaming each and every time they get backlash over something they say? Oh..."FREE SPEECH!". That's good for starters.
Where does the nonsense end? Suspending kids for having birthday parties show up on social media where Dad gifts little Billy a .22? What about going on an Alaska hunting trip?

The school board is most definitely overreaching its jurisdiction. They must put their genie back into its bottle. Most here say the same thing. If you stop to think about it without going into "apologetic back handed blanket justification mode" surely you must see that as well.

[clintonhater]

Granted, the policy of possessing weapons "on or off" school grounds is needed if officials wish to get involved with minors packing heat across the street etc...but that is a tool to use to be able to REPORT an actual crime. It does not give them any right to dictate, prosecute, or persecute.

Waiting until the "actual crime" has been committed is waiting too long. Schools can't prosecute--their chief role should be reporting suspicions to police, although as in the Parkland case, even the cops may sweep the matter under the rug. In fact, cops, schools, everyone involved, wants to give bad kids the benefit of the doubt. At the slightest hint of trouble--even an implied threat of violence or revenge--such kids ought to be separated from their (probably) lax & lazy parents, & packed off to reform schools, which in some cases may be unjust, but is justified by the scope of the school-shooting problem.

[IditarodJoe]

"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."