Look out now!

[RED]

Syria has now pissed off DJT. Obamama set up a Red Line but when it was crossed, no big deal it was more a yellow ribbon than a red line.

I don't think Trump will give Assad a pass this time... In fact as I type this I would bet bombs are falling and it will get Assad's attention much like Reagan got Muammar Gaddafi's attention in April 1986.

[togor]

Options?

[Roadkingtrax]

Options?

Steaks and over-priced real estate! Saddle them with debt!

[dryheat]

Screw Syria. It's a S***hole country. The less S***holians the better. Actually, it's an act of nature. Global climate change has wrought a drought upon the area(remember this is near the "fertile crescent" from old). The poor are crowding into(what used to be) the cities and the result is a push-back that needs little justification in those countries. Leave them alone,they're doing God's work.

[Major Tom]

No matter what Donald does he will be ostrasized for his actions or inactions.

[m1ashooter]

Not our problem.

[leftyo]

Not our problem.

actually , it is our problem. not by choice, but since trump keeps telling the whole world there will be consequences, we now have to do something or continue to have the world walk all over us like during obamma's tenure.

[Dick Hosmer]

actually , it is our problem. not by choice, but since trump keeps telling the whole world there will be consequences, we now have to do something or continue to have the world walk all over us like during obamma's tenure.

Refer post #5.

[togor]

Refer post #5.

True, but two things. First, getting credit or blame has been part of the leadership gig forever. The only people who don't know that are people who've never been leaders. Brownie Troop, President, it doesn't matter. Second, Trump amplifies this effect with his management style, which has him at the hub of a very lean operation. The State Department has been largely switched off as an instrument of foreign policy.

[leftyo]

Refer post #5.

i agree with that. however regardless of who cries about what he does or does not do, does not make this something that can be ignored. if Trump does not follow through, the rest of the world will know he is as bad as obamma was, and he cant allow that to happen.

[RED]

And just where did this nerve gas originate? There is no evidence that Syria manufactured it and then there is the Russian claim that it removed all the forbidden gasses back in 2014 per the agreement Obama and Putin reached on Sept 13, 2013. Where, oh where, has it been??? Not in Iraq, that's for sure. Bush, Blair, and Bill Clinton made up that myth so Bush would be able to slap down Saddam for trying to kill his daddy. Anyway, the truth will come out now that Mueller has raided Trump's personal lawyer's home and seized lawyer/client privileged communications. The truth being that Trump himself engineered and produced the gas at his place Mar A Lago back in the 1960's. He keeps it on ice in his favorite hideout in (where else?) Iceland.

[Mark in Ottawa]

For as long as I can remember, the USA has served as the moral conscience of the World, notwithstanding all the criticism that the USA has received for interfering in the politics of other countries. When crunch time comes, it is the USA that the World looks to to do the right thing; nobody else is in a position to do so, either because of limitations to their military capability or because of limitations to their political will to do so. Bottom line, we foreigners are depending on Mr Trump to teach the Syrians about red lines and moral limits.

[togor]

Clearly someone made the Sarin. Why do you exonerate the Syrian regime from its manufacture? Red's propaganda missives can be hard to follow sometimes.

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For as long as I can remember, the USA has served as the moral conscience of the World, notwithstanding all the criticism that the USA has received for interfering in the politics of other countries. When crunch time comes, it is the USA that the World looks to to do the right thing; nobody else is in a position to do so, either because of limitations to their military capability or because of limitations to their political will to do so. Bottom line, we foreigners are depending on Mr Trump to teach the Syrians about red lines and moral limits.

I agree and I hope Trump does too. I don't know what good options exist however.

[RED]

The evidence is quite clear that Saddam had and used Sarin gas on the Kurds. In the Halaba massacre alone there was between 3,200 and 5,000 deaths from mustard gas, Sarin and other outlawed WMD's.

Iraqi prosecutors had "500 documented baskets of crimes during the Hussein regime" and Hussein was condemned to death based on just one case, the 1982 Dujail Massacre.[20] Among several documents revealed during the trial of Saddam Hussein, one was a 1987 memo from Iraq's military intelligence seeking permission from the president's office to use mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin and tabun against Kurds. A second document said in reply that Saddam had ordered military intelligence to study the possibility of a "sudden strike" using such weapons against Iranian and Kurdish forces. An internal memo written by military intelligence confirmed it had received approval from the president's office for a strike using "special ammunition" and emphasized that no strike would be launched without first informing the president. Saddam himself told the court: "In relation to Iran, if any military or civil official claims that Saddam gave orders to use either conventional or special ammunition, which as explained is chemical, I will take responsibility with honor.

Yet when the U.S. troops finally arrived in Baghdad there was no WMD's found. Therefore Bush lied, and according to the MSN and other frauds and haters, Saddam never had weaponized chemical weapons and those thousands of Kurds died from sniffing glue.

Caravans of trucks were witnessed entering Syria during the days leading up to the fall of Iraq. Those trucks were stuffed with money, works of art, and other treasures of the Saddam regime including WMD's. Syria didn't have to make the gas, they inherited it.

But, that doesn't interest togor and the other haters, Bush lied and Trump made the gas is the only logical answer to them.

[togor]

Red, not sure why you're going all Alex Jones here. Everyone agrees that Assad gassing his own people with Sarin is very very bad, and we hope Trump is presented with some appropriate courses of action to consider. Sarin shelf life is short, especially if the industrial process isn't highly purified. So it's not Iraqi Sarin. If not locally made, the list of countries that could have supplied it is counted with one hand. But wherever it came from, someone gave the order to use it. That's what really matters.