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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    A WW2 German Tiger tank ...

    It takes 200 hours of work just to get it running for one hour ?
    WTF ? I think that needs explaining.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-British.html
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Those 200 hours probably has to do with getting it back to a zero-mud, indoor state. Wild tanks live exclusively outdoors. Plus as the only Tiger running they'll take no chances with lubrication and wear points, fuel systems, etc.

    - - - Updated - - -

    That tank gets a scene in the movie 'Fury'.

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    • dryheat
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 10587

      #3
      They had orders to destroy any disabled tanks. That would take some work.
      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #4
        Originally posted by dryheat
        They had orders to destroy any disabled tanks. That would take some work.
        Primary method was to drain the crank case and leave the engine running. If the engine wasn't running, pour some fuel down the hatch and throw a match.

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        • dogtag
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 14985

          #5
          The British have had this tank since 1942.
          Don't you think they might have removed the "Mud" by this time Vern ?
          In fact they could rebuilt the damn thing by now, so I'm still
          wondering why it takes 200 hours to get it running and why
          it can only run for one hour - before what ? I mean what happens
          after the hour is up ?
          The German crew abandoned it after the turret jammed so they didn't
          have time to inflict much damage, if any. So, presumably it was
          in fine running condition when captured.
          I just think it pretty weird that the thing would run for only one
          hour after 200 hours of work. Blind mechanics maybe ?

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8568

            #6
            Originally posted by dogtag
            The British have had this tank since 1942.
            Don't you think they might have removed the "Mud" by this time Vern ?
            In fact they could rebuilt the damn thing by now, so I'm still
            wondering why it takes 200 hours to get it running and why
            it can only run for one hour - before what ? I mean what happens
            after the hour is up ?
            The German crew abandoned it after the turret jammed so they didn't
            have time to inflict much damage, if any. So, presumably it was
            in fine running condition when captured.
            I just think it pretty weird that the thing would run for only one
            hour after 200 hours of work. Blind mechanics maybe ?
            The article has a great deal of errors in it. Too little too late comes to mind with this machine. Take out the treads, where is a tank going it just becomes a pill box. As Willie once said, "A moving foxhole attracts the eye!"
            Sam

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Dogtag I would assume that taking it out for a spin, even if but for an hour, muddys the thing up pretty well, and that it takes 200 man hours to pretty it up again. But as Sam suggests possibly not the most accurate newspaper story ever written.

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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                Dogtag I would assume that taking it out for a spin, even if but for an hour, muddys the thing up pretty well, and that it takes 200 man hours to pretty it up again. But as Sam suggests possibly not the most accurate newspaper story ever written.
                Dont knock the Daily Mail.
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                • dogtag
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 14985

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Dogtag I would assume that taking it out for a spin, even if but for an hour, muddys the thing up pretty well, and that it takes 200 man hours to pretty it up again. But as Sam suggests possibly not the most accurate newspaper story ever written.
                  I imagine there was a lot of mud during WW2, so these tanks could only
                  be in combat for an hour before they had to retire to have the mud removed ?
                  No wonder they lost the war.
                  Last edited by dogtag; 04-29-2018, 04:12.

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                  • JB White
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 13371

                    #10
                    If those hours are man hours then it's easy to comprehend. A 5 man crew could turn one around in just 2 hours. That's with experienced mechanics and spare parts available. 200 hours for a latter day museum staff who might have to fabricated a part or a tool here and there. Not to mention they're intentionally going slowly, being the only one in existence.
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                    • dogtag
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 14985

                      #11
                      But this sounds like an ongoing problem.
                      Surely once you've got it running it should stay running.
                      I mean, how long does it take to install new spark plugs and change the oil ?

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                      • RED
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11689

                        #12
                        The thing you have ti remember is the German tanks were maintained by well trained tank guys. The guys that are working on the Tiger today don't have hundreds of hours of training plus hundreds of hours fixing their broken Tigers. They are faced with hours of diagnosing the problem. Merely finding (or manufacturing ) replacement parts which was and still is very time consuming. Then there is the fact that the Tiger's engine was very good but the transmission was and probably still why it takes 200 hours to keep the thing running

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          As long as we're looking at one-of-kind German classics, the only FW190 with a BMW 801 engine. Lots of flybys in the second half of the clip. One other rare bird featured (see who can name it).

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                          • Roadkingtrax
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 7835

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            As long as we're looking at one-of-kind German classics, the only FW190 with a BMW 801 engine. Lots of flybys in the second half of the clip. One other rare bird featured (see who can name it).

                            https://youtu.be/PviNlOwihIw
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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Good eye!

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