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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Rifle shooting damages your brain ...

    The 3 Stooges don't have to worry about that - either way.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-training.html

    I've applied for the contract to supply BBs for the new Army rifle.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Not your garden-variety rifles, DT. The daily fail and their US rep strikes again. Out of curiosity, what caliber did you most recently send downrange?

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    • blackhawknj
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 3754

      #3
      Combat can be hazardous to your health-especially when you haven't trained for it. Perhaps they should work on some sort of hearing protection that is small, compact, lightweight-and can be worn in combat.

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        Originally posted by togor
        Not your garden-variety rifles, DT. The daily fail and their US rep strikes again. Out of curiosity, what caliber did you most recently send downrange?
        At his age, blanks.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • dogtag
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 14985

          #5
          Originally posted by togor
          Not your garden-variety rifles, DT. The daily fail and their US rep strikes again. Out of curiosity, what caliber did you most recently send downrange?
          50 caliber round ball, propelled by 70 gns Goex 2F
          And I suggest you read the article again.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Still don't see the point of the post. Was it to discourage high power shooting? Everyone should go back to black powder? Good luck with that.

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            • High Plaines Doug r
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 267

              #7
              dogtag answered your question. Politely. You seem to have chip on your shoulder.

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                Still don't see the point of the post. Was it to discourage high power shooting? Everyone should go back to black powder? Good luck with that.
                And here I was thinking you more intelligent than kingtrax and milbolt.
                Silly me.

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                Originally posted by High Plaines Doug r
                dogtag answered your question. Politely. You seem to have chip on your shoulder.
                Of course he has a chip on his shoulder. He's a liberal.
                Show me a liberal who doesn't and I'll show you someone without shoulders.

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                • dryheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10587

                  #9
                  Large calibers impart a lot of energy on the body. Detached retinas can happen. But the article shows a picture of a rocket launcher and not a little one. And I don't think a lot of 5.56 shooting will make your head fall off.
                  If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    The report by the Center for a New American Security focuses on high overpressure weapons which let off rockets with an explosion
                    The authors said soldiers need better helmets, more limits on how much they can shoot per day, and they need to wear a gauge to track the amount of blasts
                    The US Army recently contracted a Swedish company to provide 1,000 new shoulder rifles known as the Carl Gustaf
                    The Carl Gustaf is an 84 mm man-portable reusable anti-tank recoilless rifle produced by Saab Bofors Dynamics (formerly Bofors Anti-Armour AB) in Sweden.
                    Yes, the Carl Gustaf has a hell of a blast -- I shot them while conducting training for the Singapore Army in the '90s. But it ISN'T an M4 or M16 -- it's crew-served anti-tank weapon, a whole 'nother breed of cat.

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                    • Allen
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10583

                      #11
                      Pistol shooting can damage the brain too.
                      Attached Files

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                      • blackhawknj
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3754

                        #12
                        I just read the obituary of Lones Wigger, described in the New York Times as the "all time best rifleman". He was 80. Charlie Askins said during his competition and Border Patrol years in the 1930s he fired over 500,000 rounds. He may have been crazy but I don't think it was from shooting.
                        I went through TOW School at Fort Benning in August 1979, they said when firing from an enclosed position double hearing protection must be worn. We trained on the simulator, the champion shooter got to fire a live missile. Loudest military weapon I encountered was the 106MM Recoilless Rifle, you could hear that a half mile away.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Thousands of troops may have invisible brain injuries from weapons training: Army-commissioned report finds shoulder-mounted rifles could inflict life-long crippling damage
                          "Shoulder-mounted rifles", like the Garand, '03, SMLE, K98, M1A, M1 Carbine, AR15.

                          Dogtag gets dinged for posting a sensationalist piece of misinformation that comes from an anti-gun source in an anti-gun country. If you guys want to let him off the hook because he's getting up there in years then that's your business, but I don't think dogtag would want that.

                          I put plenty of .30 rounds downrange so naturally I'm curious. If you actually go read the study (which I did) there is this helpful bullet:

                          Emerging evidence suggests that servicemembers may be exposed to high levels of blast overpressure (the pressure wave that comes from explosions) when firing heavy weapons, such as the Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle, even in training.
                          So OK, heavy weapons. Nothing in the 20+ pages of the report exonerates .30 cal from the discussion, but at least we get a sense of where the authors are at. Of course the general public doesn't care about these fine points. Their take away from this is all guns are bad for the brain and big guns are really bad for the brain. More anti-gun misinformation on the pile, and, even more remarkably, now tolerated here.
                          Last edited by togor; 05-01-2018, 04:07.

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                          • Former Cav
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2241

                            #14
                            I do know of a fellow who in his late 50's was having eye troubles and the recoil of a 380 pistol contributed to a detached retina.
                            This was back in the early 1980's.
                            Last edited by Former Cav; 05-01-2018, 05:56.

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              People get detached retinas just because. Correlation does not establish causality.

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