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Update for Red: Trump got the poop on Schneiderman from his fixer Cohen, who got it from a lawyer named Gleason, who was representing some women with complaints against Schneiderman. Schneiderman sounds like a problem child no doubt, but I am beginning to think that the Manhattan swamp (of which Trump is a long time resident) is as big an issue, if not bigger, than the DC swamp.
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Didn't have a chance to respond, the answer is..."I haven't the faintest clue" but I am interested. In all fairness why not appoint a special prosecutor for our previous President and Hillary taking the investigation back 30 years. I would like to know more about Obama, why the alias. Why is there so many deceased individuals around Hillary and Bill? Rumor not withstanding that the Clinton's have strong connections to Mexican Cartels. Is this allegation true? Why is all of Obama's records sealed u tighter then a drum, can't someone produce the actual birth certificate rather then one from 2012? Why has no one come forth that they went to school with Obama and why are his school records sealed as well? Togor is these special prosecutors something you could and would support in the issue of fairness?
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The Obama birther thing...people keep coming back to that, and I have to wonder if it is about a principle of law or the man himself. Evidence suggests it's about the man because nobody had a problem with Ted Cruz running and he was born in Canada. So with me the birthers have a credit deficit.
As for other Obama documents. Transcripts, etc. Why? Does anyone need Trump's transcripts? Nixon's? Is this about just asking for more and more until the answer is "no" and then saying "aha, something to hide!"?
As for the Clintons. They shaded enough rules over the years so if there is justification for a "Bob Mueller for the Clintons" then sure, why not. But let's also be objective here. The Clintons have much less money than Trump, far simpler financial affairs, have been on the public stage longer, and have disclosed their financial dealings to a much greater degree. Compared to Trump it's not even close. We know so much more about Clinton money than Trump money right now. A coal seam or oil field can only be worked for so long before it stops producing. Same I think with political investigations.
My personal view is any politician acting like he/she has something to hide immediately draws my suspicion, in proportion to the power of the office they hold. By that criteria Trump naturally draws my scrutiny.Last edited by togor; 05-12-2018, 12:16.Comment
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If a person is born outside of the U.S. not on controlled American soil and one/both parents are American the birth has to be registered at the nearest American government office. The question of Obama is that no empirical evidence has been provided by/for him. My understanding is that his social security number is also questionable as is his college documentation. It would be simple for Mr. Obama to let the college where he states he graduated from to provide the actual application for admission, how his tuition was applied/paid for. Many things about him is surrounded in secrecy as if not there and then there. What grade school did he attend, his high school, did he register for the draft as required for men of his age? If Mr. Obama was not qualified to hold the high office what happens now? Will charges be filed against him and a trial ensure, what about the knowledge of his wife will she be prosecuted as well. All that he did legally as President will it be declared null and void? This could be more interesting then Watergate and I do not see a Presidential Pardon forthcoming if this were to happen. What would happen to the party that nominated him, what consequences would that entail? There are many unanswered ideation that need to be answered.
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If any of that crap were true the Russian controlled WikiLeaks would have told us by now ...... because " we all Love WikiLeaks " . And surely not all of the CIA and FBI are Dems.... are they ?If a person is born outside of the U.S. not on controlled American soil and one/both parents are American the birth has to be registered at the nearest American government office. The question of Obama is that no empirical evidence has been provided by/for him. My understanding is that his social security number is also questionable as is his college documentation. It would be simple for Mr. Obama to let the college where he states he graduated from to provide the actual application for admission, how his tuition was applied/paid for. Many things about him is surrounded in secrecy as if not there and then there. What grade school did he attend, his high school, did he register for the draft as required for men of his age? If Mr. Obama was not qualified to hold the high office what happens now? Will charges be filed against him and a trial ensure, what about the knowledge of his wife will she be prosecuted as well. All that he did legally as President will it be declared null and void? This could be more interesting then Watergate and I do not see a Presidential Pardon forthcoming if this were to happen. What would happen to the party that nominated him, what consequences would that entail? There are many unanswered ideation that need to be answered.
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For Gods sake..... it would have come out .....just like the faked moon landing .Comment
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That is exactly what you have been doing for the past two years. You have excoriated Trump because he won't make public his tax returns. It doesn't matter that his returns have been audited by the IRS for years and Obama and Clinton have been privy to the information. You have claimed time and time and time again that he is trying to hide something. Then the Mueller investigation comes around and you claim "What's the problem, what can it hurt if Trump isn't hiding something?"As for other Obama documents. Transcripts, etc. Why? Does anyone need Trump's transcripts? Nixon's? Is this about just asking for more and more until the answer is "no" and then saying "aha, something to hide!"?
You are a insane twister that never tells the truth, never says anything positive about the country, and agitation is all you do.Comment
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OK ..... but for a start I would not be able to be any more " emperical " on the topic than you { when you look up a word make sure you get its meaning right } as far as "congruent"... agreement with what ?
My "dubious" point is that the whole birther thing is a load of crap foisted upon us by the likes of Fox News . If Obama was Trump he'd have been talking about taking steps to silence a media that was against him ... and all hell would have broken loose here at Culvers. Trump talks about stifling the media that opposes him and not one peep about it here ... howcum"Last edited by Sandpebble; 05-12-2018, 03:06.Comment
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But your points are dubious, full of anger, family of origin that you try and foster upon the rest of us. When cornered you change subjects like a person with a rope on a scaffold that is in danger of collapse. As to agreement, what could that be to you?
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As I stated you provide 3rd barstool down argument. I on the other hand deal in reality [empirical congruent reasoning]. Yes, anger that is displayed with comments. Anger of your daily situation that the government is affecting your business, anger that Obama is no longer in office and Trump goes against that which you desperately need. Anger that the situation will continue for years and deepening that which other's applaud. Anger for angers sake perhaps? Personally I wish you well and shall we just agree to disagree, I will say no more as it is fruitless.
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Twist me this--how is a college transcript from years ago in the same league of disclosure as a recent tax return? You deny Trump is much more invested in keeping his financial affairs from the public eye than either the Clintons or Obama? Who does he owe? Some Russians, would be a safe guess, based on the way he foot drags on sanctions. You can tell what countries hold Trump's debts based on the short list to whom he doesn't show the middle finger. Yeah?Last edited by togor; 05-12-2018, 03:56.Comment
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I agree with you, Trump needs to answer these questions to put this Russian "thing" to rest once and for all. IMHO I want to know if he owes anything to anyone and if so will it affect the Presidency. If so, how can he govern...he can't and needs to move on out of government back to just being a citizen. Making anything off of government service is just plain wrong. Where there is smoke perhaps there is a fire and a fire that will grow unless extinguished. As to Mr. Obama let's put the question of his residence to rest once and for all, expose that which will answer the question of citizenry. Did he seek financial aid as an American citizen or as a foreign student, is that a hard question to answer and that which the college can answer.
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Guess you are right Sam
Guess you are right Sam .... after all.. Melania Trumps college admitted to the world that she quit during her freshman year . And no one here bitched that she used college education as an asset on her visa application. Even the White House web site admitted that she had a "pause" in her studies .
A not so dubious point here is that the Pres got elected barking how immigrants need to come in according to the law... and he's right ....
.... but he didn't mean for everyone.... did he ? .... sorry, there I go with those anger issues againComment
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handle because you think they don't agree with.... your comments.
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