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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #1

    Making China Great Again!

    Check out the latest tweets by Trump on ZTE. Too many Chinese jobs list!

    No doubt this garners one of Vern's trademark insightful replies, but I think this is a good opportunity to register an important point. One doesn't need to be a political extremist to find Trump dismaying. One can simply believe that if running the Federal Government like a mom-and-pop commercial real estate operation is such a great idea, then someone would have thought of it before now.

    This administration reminds me a lot of one of those gimmick systems that periodically shows up in sports. The new thing takes the league by storm...for a little while...then forgotten. Well if anything serious brews up, I'm sure Rudy G. and all the fine Manhattan folk at Fox News are ready to pitch in.
  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #2
    Originally posted by togor
    Check out the latest tweets by Trump on ZTE. Too many Chinese jobs list!

    No doubt this garners one of Vern's trademark insightful replies, but I think this is a good opportunity to register an important point. One doesn't need to be a political extremist to find Trump dismaying. One can simply believe that if running the Federal Government like a mom-and-pop commercial real estate operation is such a great idea, then someone would have thought of it before now.

    This administration reminds me a lot of one of those gimmick systems that periodically shows up in sports. The new thing takes the league by storm...for a little while...then forgotten. Well if anything serious brews up, I'm sure Rudy G. and all the fine Manhattan folk at Fox News are ready to pitch in.
    He's undoing all the crap obama foisted on us.
    That's what you don't like about him.

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    • milboltnut
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 432

      #3
      Gov't intervention cannot stop greedy businessmen....
      For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        FTE is widely known to have been excluded and banned by corporations concerned with high levels of corporate espionage due to their electronics. Seems someone forgot to tell the president and hes just making blind statements (again).

        https://businesstech.co.za/news/mobi...h-for-7-years/
        Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 05-13-2018, 02:47.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #5
          Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
          FTE is widely known to have been excluded and banned by corporations concerned with high levels of corporate espionage due to their electronics. Seems someone forgot to tell the president and hes just making blind statements (again).

          https://businesstech.co.za/news/mobi...h-for-7-years/
          Better to make a blind statement then a blind agreement like Barry did.
          Sam

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          • Roadkingtrax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 7835

            #6
            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
            Better to make a blind statement then a blind agreement like Barry did.
            Sam
            With FTE or what specifically?
            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #7
              Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
              With FTE or what specifically?
              My statement is open to suggestion, comments please.
              Sam

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Shrug, right?

                Sometimes you don't have the luxury of doing deals with friends, people you get along with. The Iranian regime had a nuclear enrichment program going for weapons-grade material. Sanctions were put in place to slow them down. Getting the Russians and Chinese on board was not so easy. People who make it their business to understand such things say that after the agreement, the Iranian enrichment stopped. So did the Iranians use their enrichment activities as a bargaining chip? Maybe. Does Trump use Qualcomm chips and their impact on ZTE as a bargaining chip with the Chinese? It would appear so. Give me something in return for me doing or not doing something in the future. According to Red that is not a deal. Trump disagrees.

                Has Trump in his business career ever bought at the top of a market? Sold something at a loss? Absolutely, yes! Does that make him a bad negotiator, or is it a case of if you're going to do deals some won't turn out so well? I think it's the latter. Of course to the politicos here, things are much more black-and-white than that. In the alternate reality, everything Obama ever did turned to sh*t and everything Trump does comes up roses.

                And Togor has a P.38 he's selling that was carried by Rommel himself in the attack on Tobruk in 1942. Special price of only $4,000, and only to people who are true believers in Trump, who want to Make America Great Again, and who don't need meaningless trivia like papers establishing provenance because they know that belief triumphs over reality every time.

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                • m1ashooter
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 3220

                  #9
                  Togor I support Trump and I'm not dismayed.
                  To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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                  • milboltnut
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 432

                    #10
                    Star Wars stopped the Russians during Reagans Presidency.... so why wouldn't Sanctions stop Iran?

                    Give me something in return for me doing or not doing something in the future
                    How about I'll do this in the future if you do this now....
                    For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Originally posted by m1ashooter
                      Togor I support Trump and I'm not dismayed.
                      No problem here with that. We all have our views and our reasons for them.

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                      • S.A. Boggs
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 8568

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        No problem here with that. We all have our views and our reasons for them.
                        Very insightful comment.
                        Sam

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                        • RED
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11689

                          #13
                          People who make it their business to understand such things say that after the agreement, the Iranian enrichment stopped.
                          And those people know this how? They see empty buildings and say "Gee that's where Iran enriched uranium, so they had to stop or that building would be a busy place." Could it be the process was moved inside a mountain these people haven't seen??? Or is it possible that Iran used $50 or more billion cash to buy already processed plutonium from Pakistan, Russia, or China? No verification is needed, right? Other than that empty, unsigned, promise, what else did Iran have on the table? Not a damn thing and you think that is a deal.

                          In the alternate reality, everything Obama ever did turned to sh*t and everything Trump does comes up roses.
                          OK tell us one thing that Obama ever did as President that was a success. Obamacare, the "Shovel Ready Jobs?" the Clunker buy back? Fast & Furious? improved relations with Russia and China? Withdrawal from Afghanistan? 2011 budget Control Act? Gay's in the Military? Violence in his adopted home town, Chicago? Improved military readiness and moral? None of those things worked, so what did? How about healthier breakfasts and lunches in the schools... you know all those carrots and stuff? That actually worked because there were more carrots and green veggies that went to school lunch rooms and into the dumpsters than ever before!

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #14
                            Gee Red when you put it that way how could I not be persuaded. I'm sure Osama bin Laden agrees with you too.

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                            • RED
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11689

                              #15
                              Exactly how does this have anything to do with OBL? So do you really believe OBL would have agreed with me that BHO was a really poor President? And, that DJT has (at least in his term so far) been far better? You are out of airspeed, altitude, and ideas. Ejection is your only out...

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