For our friends in Canada

[Sandpebble]

I just plucked this from a site known as the Odd Man.... A Canadian site

So..... The Head Cheetos just imposed tariffs over 16 billion dollars on Canadian exports of steel and aluminum to the US in the name of NATIONAL SECURITY.

Canada is a National Security threat to the United States Of America. Just let that sink in. Canada…is…a…National…Security…threat.

Canada has imposed tariffs of 16.6 billion dollars on strategic US imports in retaliation.

So let me phrase this as nicely as I possibly can, ..... What the xxxx is wrong with you, America?

[togor]

I may not be the guy to ask since I just finished watching Season 1 of the Hulu series The Handmaid's Tale. Holy crap! Bible thumpers overthrow the US government and install a draconian government, in some ways hearkening back to the Puritan days. Those women who are thought to be fertile are forced to wear red and given out by the state to high-ranking officials to bear children for them (most women are infertile). The series is set in the northeast, and so escaping to Canada is escaping to freedom. And the Canucks are pretty good about taking in refugees of the regime.

Watching I'm thinking, "I bet Allen would love this place. He'd be one of the goons with an M4 that walk the streets at hundred yard intervals. Happy as a clam except for the lousy northeast weather."

Canada: this too shall pass.

[leftyo]

its all just part of the game. for many years pretty much every country on this planet has had higher tarrifs on the US's products entering their country than the US had on theirs. the big wigs will bicker for a bit, then start to renegotiate how we treat each other.

[Ken The Kanuck]

For many Canadians we understand that President Trump is trying to get the best deal possible for the United States. We expect those we elect to do the same for Canada.

What bothers many of us, me included is to say that Canada poses a security threat to the United States.

Given the number of Canadians who have fought along side and died with their American comrades in many conflicts over the last 100 years plus, defending the common interests of both Canada and the United States. To say Canada is a security threat is simply a slap in the face.

KTK

[S.A. Boggs]

For many Canadians we understand that President Trump is trying to get the best deal possible for the United States. We expect those we elect to do the same for Canada.

What bothers many of us, me included is to say that Canada poses a security threat to the United States.

Given the number of Canadians who have fought along side and died with their American comrades in many conflicts over the last 100 years plus, defending the common interests of both Canada and the United States. To say Canada is a security threat is simply a slap in the face.

KTK

Ken I can understand and let me try to put this into some type of perspective. First all, ignore our "Barry" children as they have learned to carry a jar of grease with them. America has taken it on the chin for a long time losing one industry after another to other countries "dumping" their products here and I am NOT talking about Canada. Case in point, a local steel mill shut down and was scrapped due to foreign steel being brought into my country. I knew several of the fathers who worked there and saw the destruction done to their families. Losing their home, being forced to move and in some cases the total financial destruction of their family. Foreign governments subsidizing the steel to protect "their" jobs at the cost of ours. Both political parties went along with this to the detriment of the working person and that was wrong! ANY country that puts a threat to the American Family is a threat, same if it is your country. Doing otherwise is crazy, something America has been for far too long. If the guy next door loses his job I see that as a recession, if I lose my job it is now a depression. Instead of condaming the U.S. try and look at it from our side, walk in our moccasins for a mile or two. America has been on the downslide for far too long, things are looking up in my AO. For the first time in a LOOOOOOONG time there are more jobs then people to fill them, my family has more disposable income, a dream that my bride and I have held for 35 years is coming to fruition which makes me fill good. Finally a guy in the White House who is looking out for MY FAMILIES interest instead of having America liked, which the world didn't. I am 67 and realized long ago that a person is either respected for their belief or feared for their belief. America will again be respected for the economic fear of a new reality. America wants a REAL economic relationship, not a lop sided one. If America is going to trade, it should be as fair as possible, not America taking the short sheet. England is afraid of losing steel jobs, America will be gaining them back. Canada can and will DO THE SAME FOR HER PEOPLE! I am tired of seeing MADE IN CHINA I want to again see MADE IN THE USA. President Trump is doing what I and other Americans wanted him to do MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, is that wrong?
Sam

[togor]

Which man is the better friend? The man who loves you or the one who is afraid of what you might do to him when you're angry? I have my answer, Trump has his, and they're not the same. Red wonders why I'm not sold on the guy, and it's for reasons like this.

[S.A. Boggs]

We are going to fulfil a dream that we started two years ago before I got seriously ill. A large part of this dream I can thank Canada for it as the MAJORITY of the wood will be coming from north of our border and why is this? Canada has the ability of producing quality wood at a good price, I cannot fault Canada for doing this and I have looked at locally grown wood as well. I have been in love with Canada since I was a child! My late Father was a long haul trucker who worked for a shipping firm that was located in Detroit/Toledo and he hauled Chrysler cars made in Canada. I remember Dad coming home with a wooden apple filled with apple candy from Canada, it was a treat for a little boy to have. I also was given some of their coins. Dad took those Canadian Chrysler cars to the South and bought cartons of cigarettes which was dirt cheap. Dad put the cartons into the hold of his trailer and went back to Canada to drop the trailer off at the factory loading dock. The security on both sides of the border waved the trucks on thru as many of Square Deal's trucks made the trip each day. His Canadian buddies had his "special" trailer loaded for him to take back to America. In the hold was several bottles of that Canadian elixir Canadian Club for Dad's American buddies. When our daughter worked at McDonalds she always brought home all Canadian money for me to add to my collection. Canada and America should trade on as level a field as possible, if Canada can produce the same product at a more reasonable price without government support more power to Canada!
Sam

[leftyo]

absolutely agree we should trade with canada on an even, fair basis. it hasnt been that way in a long time.

[Ken The Kanuck]

President Trump is doing what I and other Americans wanted him to do MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, is that wrong?
Sam

Good morning Sam,

Please re-read my post, I find nothing wrong with President Trump trying to get the best deal possible for the American people, this in my opinion is commendable. So to answer your question, no that is not wrong.

It is important to remember one fact and that is the population of the United States is about 10 times as large as the population of Canada. Also the fact Canada has a primarily resource extraction based economy, which means that we do not manufacture anywhere near as much as we harvest. Given those 2 facts it is easy to see why there is a trade imbalance. Even so Canada buys more from the United States than any other country buys from the United States. That is pretty remarkable given the difference as described above.

I look upon these present trade issues like they were a gold medal hockey game between the United States and Canada. Both teams and both coaches are going to do their very best to win, which is what they should be doing.

But to vilify the other side with terms such as "a threat to national security" is wrong and an insult to our veterans who have fought and died along side of America.

But as it was pointed out that this will pass, our nation's respect for one another is far greater than any trade spat or even a gold medal hockey game.

KTK

[m1ashooter]

Canada is not a threat to our Nation and I don't read the statement the same way as others. The Presidents position is the importation of steel from other countries at prices our domestic mills can't compete with, is a National Security Concern.

We have lost over many decades the industrial base that provided jobs and a decent standard of living for many in our nation. Its time we got that back again.

[S.A. Boggs]

Good morning Sam,

Please re-read my post, I find nothing wrong with President Trump trying to get the best deal possible for the American people, this in my opinion is commendable. So to answer your question, no that is not wrong.

It is important to remember one fact and that is the population of the United States is about 10 times as large as the population of Canada. Also the fact Canada has a primarily resource extraction based economy, which means that we do not manufacture anywhere near as much as we harvest. Given those 2 facts it is easy to see why there is a trade imbalance. Even so Canada buys more from the United States than any other country buys from the United States. That is pretty remarkable given the difference as described above.

I look upon these present trade issues like they were a gold medal hockey game between the United States and Canada. Both teams and both coaches are going to do their very best to win, which is what they should be doing.

But to vilify the other side with terms such as "a threat to national security" is wrong and an insult to our veterans who have fought and died along side of America.

But as it was pointed out that this will pass, our nation's respect for one another is far greater than any trade spat or even a gold medal hockey game.

KTK

Personally I have never seen Canada as a threat, just the opposite. Regarding the political statement, I am not familiar to it or as to who said it and if so was it pertaining explicitly to Canada or a general statement. Many times statements are taken out of context, I don't know. If Canada is a threat IMHO parts of the west coast of the U.S. could pose a greater threat to national security i.e. illegal aliens and I don't mean Martians. Please accept any apologies to your great Nation of Canada, this REAL AMERICAN holds only the deepest respect and admiration. I do wish you would keep your polar vortex to yourself, I love things Canadian but not all.
Sam

[Ken The Kanuck]

Good morning again Sam,

The reference to the national security threat has come from President Trump himself, I believe that the reason he has used this term is it is the only way he as president can impose tariffs without the approval of congress. I would ask those with a better understanding of American politics to correct me if I am wrong.

On a happier note I am pleased that my buddy who has been battling cancer gave me a call this morning as I am going out to visit him. He told me to bring my passport as he wants to cross the border into your great country. I will not be bringing more than $10,000.00 down but hope to bring more than that home. Just my part to fuel the trade imbalance.

KTK

[togor]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/0...gtype=Homepage

What businessmen understand better than politicians (or a good many retirees) is that uncertainty has an immediate cost. As soon as the ? marks start poppping up, behavior in the marketplace changes.

[S.A. Boggs]

Good morning again Sam,

The reference to the national security threat has come from President Trump himself, I believe that the reason he has used this term is it is the only way he as president can impose tariffs without the approval of congress. I would ask those with a better understanding of American politics to correct me if I am wrong.

On a happier note I am pleased that my buddy who has been battling cancer gave me a call this morning as I am going out to visit him. He told me to bring my passport as he wants to cross the border into your great country. I will not be bringing more than $10,000.00 down but hope to bring more than that home. Just my part to fuel the trade imbalance.

KTK

Come on down, just leave that darn vortex at home! By the way, I am telling my wood supplier to double my order to 6 cords in case my cold Canadian friend jumps the border and stays awhile!
Sam

[Jiminvirginia]

Canada is not a national security threat but the dismal state of the United States metal refining capability is. We need to do something to bring that industry back. Most people do not know how serious this problem is.