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  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #31
    Heavily subsidized US based farming killed commercial farming in Mexico. Wonder where the farm workers in Mexico went?
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #32
      And US dairy surpluses could put Quebec dairy farmers out of business. Trade seems simple until you dive into the details, which is exactly what our man in Singapore hates to do. But the details are what make it work or not. The assertion that US Canada trade is on the main broken is taken without so much as a hint of disagreement by the faithful despite numbers from both side of the border to the contrary. It's enough to make a person look up the definition of the word Stooge on the internet:

      a person who serves merely to support or assist others, particularly in doing unpleasant work
      Last edited by togor; 06-11-2018, 06:36.

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      • Ken The Kanuck
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 4094

        #33
        Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
        I have read conflicting data that shows that if killed, Mexico would suffer the worst. Would it not be easier for Canada and the US to simply open our borders for equal trade with each other? Each nation can trade freely with no hinderance to each other, to come closer together instead of apart? Each nation can benefit from each other, why not?
        Sam
        Sam to be honest with you I find the trade stuff confusing, there does not seem to be a simple way of finding out. I looked at some government websites both American and Canadian you need a government grant and several years to figure these out.

        I do believe that it is imperative for a country to be able to feed itself. This might mean some unfair duties to protect farming, dairy and the other industries that provide us our food.

        They need to be protected, relying upon the kindness and fairness of your friends and allies may not be a very good idea.

        KTK

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        • Allen
          Moderator
          • Sep 2009
          • 10580

          #34
          Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
          Question is IF nafta dies does it hurt who?
          Sam
          NAFTA was established for the most part to "give" jobs away mainly to Mexico in hopes that they would keep some of their people in their country. This was an act of sabatoge, a stupid approach and an incredible joke as most of us knew from the beginning. Why wasn't it eliminated long ago? Trump addressed this in his campaigning and I feel this is how Mexico is going to ultimately pay for the wall. NAFTA will be modified or eliminated.

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8568

            #35
            Originally posted by Ken The Kanuck
            Sam to be honest with you I find the trade stuff confusing, there does not seem to be a simple way of finding out. I looked at some government websites both American and Canadian you need a government grant and several years to figure these out.

            I do believe that it is imperative for a country to be able to feed itself. This might mean some unfair duties to protect farming, dairy and the other industries that provide us our food.

            They need to be protected, relying upon the kindness and fairness of your friends and allies may not be a very good idea.

            KTK
            Ken, as usual you my friend have hit the nail squarely on the head. To be able to buy food one must have a job or be dependent on the government for the food that a government buy's with the taxes of those who are still working. To allow other countries the ability to dictate to your/our people how to live is insane to say the least. What works for America, will it work for Brazil and vice versa? I do a lot of horse trading, will be doing it with the Amish fellows who are doing the carpentry on my home. By the way, I have found the Amish easier to deal with and I don't have to constantly check everything. I ignore statistics as they are easy to manipulate and the data is not always available. Is Canadian lumber better then American, do Canadians prefer American dairy over their own? When I buy I have to ask myself simple questions. Can I afford the product and is it the best that I can find. I like butter, not margarine and my butter comes from Ireland as it is superior to what I can buy. When I can find it there is locally produced butter from Amish farms that is sold in 2 lb rolls wrapped in butcher paper and is in high demand. Price is acceptable, availability is not and that is the rub. Usually I can't help what my government does, only what it does to me and mine. With that I do my best to protect my family from the wishes of other "well doers" in Congress.
            Sam

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