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  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #1

    So Donald has relented.

    Good. Too much negativity. Didn't bother me any, but when your wife says no, well, maybe it's too much. . He re-iterated, zero tolerance. What does that mean? They are flooding the border because they think it might shut. It should already be shut. The usual piece in the news about how awful it is in Nicuragua. So, people who live in corrugated tins shacks are afraid of the neighbors. Why do we need tin shed dwellers here?
    Last edited by dryheat; 06-20-2018, 08:23.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.
  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #2
    The problem is the border is already shut. It is a crime to cross our borders without going through the hoops required by law. We have Ports of Entry where nobody is denied the right to come here... but there are rules that must be followed just like there were rules on Ellis Island. This is NOT about the children. It is all about do you have borders or not?

    And no, they are flooding the border because they think it is open, and that they don't have to follow our rules or laws.

    This is not about the children, it is about do we have a country or not. togor would march 1,000,000 children into the ovens if he thought that would get rid of DJT, self reliance, and the U.S. Constitution.
    Last edited by RED; 06-20-2018, 10:33.

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    • PWC
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1366

      #3
      I don't like serapating families either, but we are in a war, and families are casualties of war. In this instance the 'civilians' are walking into the line of fire rather than away. I hope the enforcement includes some sort of dna test to verify the 'family' really is a family and not just a pick up family to sneak in.

      If he hadn't caved all the pressure was on the liberal left dems for not sitting down to change the laws. Now he is back in the pressure cooker rather than Schumer and Pelosi. Change the law not the process to NOT enforce it.

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      • S.A. Boggs
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 8568

        #4
        People think that the "families" will now be turned lose, I hope not.
        Sam

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Red uses classic Trumpian misdirection with his "ovens" talk while he's the one supporting interment camps and walls and the like. Your playbook is an old read there bud.

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          • 1563621
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 1103

            #6
            If you saw the number of ILLEGALS on welfare, it is shocking!, food stamps, healthcare, phones, transportation, housing, the list goes on and on!. Stop with this and SS is solvent! Been going on for too many years.

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              Red uses classic Trumpian misdirection with his "ovens" talk while he's the one supporting interment camps and walls and the like. Your playbook is an old read there bud.
              On the other hand...
              Sam

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Boggs if you want to get in my line of fire then stand a bit taller please

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10583

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 1563621
                  If you saw the number of ILLEGALS on welfare, it is shocking!, food stamps, healthcare, phones, transportation, housing, the list goes on and on!. Stop with this and SS is solvent! Been going on for too many years.
                  What I've always said. The illegals should have NO rights of ours but since the liberals insist then all welfare should be ended and no wall would be needed. People now being paid to not work would gladly take the "jobs that nobody wants to do". Green cards and visa's could be eliminated as well.

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                  Originally posted by PWC
                  we are in a war
                  We ARE at war by all accounts and perhaps military threats to Mexico and others would encourage their governments to keep their people in their countries.

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                  • clintonhater
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 5220

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PWC
                    I don't like serapating families either, but we are in a war, and families are casualties of war.
                    Where was Laura Bush's weeping & hand-wringing when her husband unleashed an unprovoked war on Iraq? As a result of that, & the civil war that followed, how many children were separated permanently from their families? Her husband was responsible for 100s of 1000s of civilian deaths, & she's upset that these brats were temporarily separated from their criminal parents???

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Allen
                      We ARE at war by all accounts and perhaps military threats to Mexico and others would encourage their governments to keep their people in their countries.
                      Now there's an Allen-y thing to put this in proper context. Hint: If Allen agrees with you, then you're doing it wrong.

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                      • bruce
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3759

                        #12
                        Re: Op. The President stepped in a fire ant nest. Relenting was about his only good choice. Moral ... never give an enemy a brick to throw at your windows. You only end up with a drafty house. Nothing will be done to the brick throwers. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
                        " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bruce
                          Re: Op. The President stepped in a fire ant nest. Relenting was about his only good choice. Moral ... never give an enemy a brick to throw at your windows. You only end up with a drafty house. Nothing will be done to the brick throwers. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
                          Another moral, Bruce: if you do something deliberately immoral, people might hold you to account, even if "you're the most powerful man in the world".

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                          • RED
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11689

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Another moral, Bruce: if you do something deliberately immoral, people might hold you to account, even if "you're the most powerful man in the world".
                            And which President would that be Nixon or Obama? I haven't seen one proven fact that Trump has done anything as President that is either immoral or illegal. Fools, haters, and morons read the WAPO and watch TV news and when they say Manafort pled guilty to manslaughter, or Trump lied about some crooked prostitute, you believe it 1000%.

                            You are a hopeless loser and still have't been right about anything. Tell us again about how the Russians elected DJT. Tell us again about the Collusion. Tell us again that he fired Comey because Comey was investigating him (although Comey swore under oath he wasn't). Tell us again about how Jeff Sessions is going to resign last year. Tell us again that Trump is banging his daughter and 9 year old son. Tell us again how Trump will not issues sanctions against Russia. Tell us again how Jared went to an illegal meeting the Russian lawyer. Tell us again how Trump beat up Melania so bad she was in the hospital and tweeted a message the first letters of each word spelled "HELP." Tell us again how great and impartial Mueller and the his gang are. Tell us again how great, impartial, and honest the American "institution," called the FBI is. Tell us again how the Earth is warming because of humanity and the moon is warming for the same reason. Come on show us some more hate and contempt for the USA. We know you can do it, all it takes is a few more bigger lies and when told over and over some people will believe them.

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                            • Roadkingtrax
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 7835

                              #15
                              Red never knew you were a small business owner?

                              "Strawman Factory"
                              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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