Canada Day and Tariffs

[RED]

BB you are arguing with a Algore-rythym programmed machine. He is incapable of understanding the nuances of tariffs and trade. He thinks he knows what every one of the 7 billion people on earth are thinking. He has the wrong answers programmed in his microcircuit brain. Ask him why the Civil War was waged and he knows it was slavery, and that was the single cause of the conflict. Ask him why WWI was fought and he will tell you it was because some dude offed some Duke in Sarajevo and that was the one and only cause. It took Barabera Tuchman's 511 page book The Guns of August to explain it but by gawd togor can fill you in with 5 or 6 words.

Togor doesn't have a single clue as to what Trump is doing, thinking, or strategizing. Trump does a lot of things that togor doesn't know about and wouldn't understand if he did. If it is American it is bad. If it is Trump it is disaster after disaster and togor still thinks Hilly won but the Russians cheated so Trump would win. Unplug the machine or interrupt the program and all there is left is garbage.

Ask him where he was for the past few days... He was out getting his battery charged by spitting on the flag and protesting against ICE.

[togor]

Red you're a nut.

[S.A. Boggs]

Red you're a nut.

What kind, almond, peanut or?
Sam

[bruce]

What a total and unnecessary mess. Agree. Impulsive poorly considered decisions very seldom produce positive results. A little like that old proverb ... cutting off you nose to spite your face. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

[Ken The Kanuck]

My wife and I have just returned from a week's holiday in Alaska. While on the ship we met a very nice couple from up state New York. He works for a large US steel company which makes steel shapes and was in Calgary trying to drum up some business at a conference there and decided to drive over the Rockies and come to Vancouver for a cruise. He tells me that up state New York is red, while the southern part is blue. I don't know that much about American politics but he like so many Americans that I have met lived and breathed it.

He also said that he was a republican but detested Trump who he feels would be impeached before his term is out. Again above my pay grade.

What was interesting was what he said about steel and that was there is no imbalance between Canada and the USA, we each buy and sell from one another the same amount.

So why tariffs? It appears just to be another form of taxation and one thing I do believe is that the government does not need anymore of my hard earned money. I don't know about the American government but I can tell you that the Canadian government is like a drunk in a bar buying everyone drinks thinking that everyone is his friend.

So I can tell you that this canary is pissed off with Trump but still like our American friends and neighbours.

KTK

[Roadkingtrax]

Many people feel the same as your contact from upstate NY. Most of what is said by Trump is an attempt, and sometimes damaging one domestically, to gain political talking points for his reelection campaign. He can say, I pushed for equal trade or tariffs without ever accomplishing anything. There's plenty of media coverage that he will simply reference as proof of that empty accomplishment. Kinda of ironic...he needs the media so he can lie.

[togor]

You're suggesting Trump is a media whore? Scandalous! You hater you.

[Roadkingtrax]

You're suggesting Trump is a media whore? Scandalous! You hater you.

There isnt a politician that isnt. Now, our Trump guy is a master class manipulator, all day long cluster B disorder representative, and amazingly adept at playing the victim.

Im labeled a hater because I see his public persona for what it is. Privately he could be as nice as anyone else?

[togor]

They say Trump is WYSIWYG. I see a bubbling cauldron of grievances with a short attention span, so I'm thinking they're probably right.

[S.A. Boggs]

Question: If there were NO trade barriers to ANY COMMODITY would anyone here be against this and if so why?
Sam

[togor]

Question: If there were NO trade barriers to ANY COMMODITY would anyone here be against this and if so why?
Sam

Think about it. With our hyper-efficient global transportation systems, a large enough supplier anywhere on the planet could put everyone else out of business by driving the market. And as competition is eliminated from the marketplace, market power (the ability to control prices) increases. So things are cheap until they're not. There is this canard in GOP circles that regulations kill business and must be forever abolished wherever found. The truth is far more complex. What businessmen really want is a stable regulatory environment in which they can make a profit today and effectively plan for tomorrow's capital allocation. And yes, one thing that regulations do that businessmen like is make it harder for new entrants to penetrate a market. I could easily write a long post about how pharma uses government regs to their massive advantage.

[RED]

Think about it. With our hyper-efficient global transportation systems, a large enough supplier anywhere on the planet could put everyone else out of business by driving the market. And as competition is eliminated from the marketplace, market power (the ability to control prices) increases. So things are cheap until they're not. There is this canard in GOP circles that regulations kill business and must be forever abolished wherever found. The truth is far more complex. What businessmen really want is a stable regulatory environment in which they can make a profit today and effectively plan for tomorrow's capital allocation. And yes, one thing that regulations do that businessmen like is make it harder for new entrants to penetrate a market. I could easily write a long post about how pharma uses government regs to their massive advantage.

Go ahead and post another Socialist/Communist utopia bunch of bull sheet. Capitalism works every time its tried and Socialism fails.

Come on togor, you have only told a dozen lies in the past week... Come to think about it, your lying posts are down by 2/3rds... What happened, did you get a pay cut from your handlers?

[dryheat]

If Trump says it, I'm for it. Business 101, 202,303, it goes on and on. How's business? Well, it's going to get better. Sometimes, you have to hurt people a little. It's good for them. There should be some gun control and; there should be some medical science control.

-our hyper-efficient global transportation systems, a large enough supplier anywhere on the planet could put everyone else out of business by driving the market-
Like Walmart? Funny how that hasn't happened. No one is that big. You can't be that big. When it get's that big, it's war.

[bruce]

Think about it. With our hyper-efficient global transportation systems, a large enough supplier anywhere on the planet could put everyone else out of business by driving the market. And as competition is eliminated from the marketplace, market power (the ability to control prices) increases. So things are cheap until they're not. There is this canard in GOP circles that regulations kill business and must be forever abolished wherever found. The truth is far more complex. What businessmen really want is a stable regulatory environment in which they can make a profit today and effectively plan for tomorrow's capital allocation. And yes, one thing that regulations do that businessmen like is make it harder for new entrants to penetrate a market. I could easily write a long post about how pharma uses government regs to their massive advantage.

There you go again! Setting aside economic theories for actual market place experience and everyday reality is going to keep you stirred up! Got to learn to hold to theory at all times even when it means denial of reality ... like insisting that the world is flat regardless of others may say! Sincerely. bruce.

[S.A. Boggs]

There you go again! Setting aside economic theories for actual market place experience and everyday reality is going to keep you stirred up! Got to learn to hold to theory at all times even when it means denial of reality ... like insisting that the world is flat regardless of others may say! Sincerely. bruce.

Amen!
Sam