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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Tearing down the Southern Generals ...

    I guess the liberal thinking is, if you hide the statues then
    people will think the civil war never happened and those
    nasty slave owners can be forgotten. Trouble is, History
    is annoyingly resistant to change.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lags-more.html

    Must be odd to be named Good Looking - even in French.
  • clintonhater
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 5220

    #2
    Originally posted by dogtag
    Trouble is, History
    is annoyingly resistant to change.
    Not when the indoctrination of liberal distortions of history begin in elementary school.

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    • sid
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3198

      #3
      Tearing down these statues is the same as the Nazis burning books in Germany.

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      • Major Tom
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 6181

        #4
        For a lot of bonofide Southerns, the war between the States is still important to them and rightly so. I used to fly, alongside the American flag a confederate battle flag to honor those who gave their all. I don't do that anymore because black welfare rats live in my neighborhood now.

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        • Jiminvirginia
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 972

          #5
          Why we spend so much time, money and emotion trying to keep dead people happy is beyond my understanding.

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #6
            Originally posted by Jiminvirginia
            Why we spend so much time, money and emotion trying to keep dead people happy is beyond my understanding.
            Well, I for one am not dead (yet). And I'm extremely unhappy, in fact, devastated, to be forced to witness the ignominious desecration of the memories of these gallant men.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Out of curiosity, CH, was their cause more or less noble than some union organizers who got their brains bashed in by strikebreakers, also dying for something. Or protestors at Kent State? Is it the cause or dying for it that deserves the monument?
              Last edited by togor; 08-05-2018, 09:57.

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                The statues are (presumably) in storage, so when calmer heads prevail,
                (some years hence) maybe they can be restored to their rightful place.

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Is it the cause or dying for it that deserves the monument?
                  It's not "either-or." How could anyone fail to see that the nature of the cause determines the worth of the personal sacrifice; ISIS & Taliban terrorists are eager to die for their malicious cause.

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                  Originally posted by dogtag
                  The statues are (presumably) in storage, so when calmer heads prevail,
                  (some years hence) maybe they can be restored to their rightful place.
                  Some years hence? When whites are reduced to an even smaller minority?

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Non-answer, CH, which actually gets to the root of your problem. If you can't explain in plain language to the next generation why the statues ought to be there, then how do you expect to compete against the teachings of those who argue that they ought to come down? The next generation is just supposed to kinda figure it out on it's own?

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                    • clintonhater
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 5220

                      #11
                      Originally posted by togor
                      Non-answer, CH, which actually gets to the root of your problem. If you can't explain in plain language to the next generation why the statues ought to be there, then how do you expect to compete against the teachings of those who argue that they ought to come down?
                      Plain language is that these men are HEROES because they took up arms (against overwhelming odds) to defend their homeland against invasion. A "union" that isn't voluntary is a contradiction in terms.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by clintonhater
                        Plain language is that these men are HEROES because they took up arms (against overwhelming odds) to defend their homeland against invasion. A "union" that isn't voluntary is a contradiction in terms.
                        OK, well good that you can do that. Now you have to compete against the other narratives that are out there. It's what happens in free societies.

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                        • blackhawknj
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3754

                          #13
                          The Ministry of Truth at work.

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                          • Jiminvirginia
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 972

                            #14
                            Sad fact is, in my opinion, that few people took notice of these statues including North and South, until it became a "thing". That was the reason for my previous comment. Who today really cares?

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                            • clintonhater
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 5220

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jiminvirginia
                              Sad fact is, in my opinion, that few people took notice of these statues including North and South, until it became a "thing". That was the reason for my previous comment. Who today really cares?
                              Obviously, you don't, but how can you apply the same attitude to everyone? Yes, it's true that most people in this debased culture are totally self-absorbed, seldom give a serious thought to anything beyond their private, personal, selfish interests, & the next brainless text on their cells. But though they are certainly in the minority, there are still plenty of people having a deep & lifelong interest in the history of their region. There was never a time in my life when I was not curious about all historical monuments, particularly those relating to the "Second American Revolution."

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