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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Dropping like flies - 72,000 overdoses ...

    Actually, I linked this story not for the addicts overdosing,
    but for the map:
    How many States can you name ?
    I did pretty well on the left to the middle, but apart from
    Florida and NY, the right side - not so good. Bad in fact.
    But then, I have an excuse.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...C-reports.html
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    Quicker the better.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
      Quicker the better.
      OD deaths are up under Trump if that's what you mean.

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      • Tuna
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2686

        #4
        Yes they are but this all really started under Obama. That is why he signed onto the bill he wanted to stop all of this but like many things in the war against drugs it has not worked. Too many people just want to be high. They don't want to face life. Those that got addicted to pain pills just liked the feeling of being high long after they really needed them. I will bet everyone here knows someone who died with an overdoes. Family members or family of friends all gone far to young most of the time.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Put me on that list, Tuna. The opiods rewire the brain of someone who was addicted. Thereafter the want never completely goes away. Add to it the stresses and grinding poverty that often accompany addiction, and it's easy to see why people fall back again and again.

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #6
            Originally posted by togor
            The opiods rewire the brain of someone who was addicted.
            Didn't rewire my brain when for about 3 wks, I was taking the max dose of that terrible "poison" Oxycontin for the most terrible pain I had ever experienced due to a bad leg injury--I'd have committed suicide without it. Afterwards, over the next month my dosage was reduced as the pain gradually subsided. I had NO desire to continue using it after the worst of the pain went away, and in fact I still have a small quantity of it I never used.

            Those poor helpless addicts are weaklings who wanted to continue the thrill of being high--which in fact I never experienced beyond maybe the sense of relaxation that follows a glass of wine. And THAT, believe me, was not worth the extreme constipation caused by long use of opioids!

            The "falling back again & again" is the result principally of their basic pre-addiction character flaws--i.e., being a spineless weakling was the prerequisite for the addiction.

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #7
              My wife was a Viet Nam era nurse, I was an Infantryman. We both saw the damage opiods do -- the Army practice in those days was to give opiods for pain, then put the wounded through de-tox after their wounds healed. We're both scared to death of them. My wife had a total hip replacement in December, and still has a lot of pain -- but she has to be in REAL pain before she takes a half tablet, that that's less than once a week.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                I hope she feels better soon, Vern.

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                • Major Tom
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6181

                  #9
                  My wife and I have used oxycontin for serious bone fractures and have never had the urge to use them illegally.

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                  • S.A. Boggs
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 8568

                    #10
                    It is clinically know as "Addictive Personality Disorder", if a person is addicted to one substance the person is addicted to all substances. Unfortunately many have to hit rock bottom to have the desire to quit and often it is too late. Many will never quit using and there lies the danger to society. How much is society willing to spend on those who have no desire of quitting? Should three OD's and then you are out be applied? When I was in severe pain during my stint with cancer, I had at my disposal OxyContin in liquid form to use. I am a coward, pain hurts addiction hurts worse! I did what Carlos did and placed myself mentally into a bubble to escape the pain, it wasn't easy but it worked. When I disposed of my pain meds with my Sheriff buddy my bottle of Oxy was still unopened.
                    Sam

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                    • clintonhater
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 5220

                      #11
                      Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                      I am a coward, pain hurts addiction hurts worse! I did what Carlos did and placed myself mentally into a bubble to escape the pain, it wasn't easy but it worked. When I disposed of my pain meds with my Sheriff buddy my bottle of Oxy was still unopened.
                      Sam
                      Good for you if that method worked, but unless YOU are afflicted with "APD," your avoidance of prescribed pain meds was an absolutely needless sacrifice! MILLIONS like me have used them without turning into addicts, but the media is not interested in reporting such a boring story when it would interfere with the sob-story, take-no-personal-responsibility, narrative they are promoting.

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        During the Civil War, morphine was all they had for long term pain. There was a song called "Soldier's joy"

                        The surgeon hands me a bottle
                        and says "drink all you can."
                        He turns around again
                        with a hacksaw in his hand,

                        Give me some more of that Soldier's Joy
                        you know what I mean
                        I can't take no more of this pain
                        My leg is turning green

                        It's 25 cents for whiskey
                        25 cents for beer
                        25 cents for morphine
                        Get me out of here!


                        After the war, morphine addiction was called "the Soldier's Disease."

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                        • blackhawknj
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3754

                          #13
                          October 9, 2015, at about 0130 I was bicycling home-and hit by a drunk. They gave me a tablet of Percocet at the hospital and a prescription for it-which I did not bother with.
                          On another board a member said his wife had a prescription for Oxycontin-which she hadn't touched in months. Some her friends came to visit, asked to use the bathroom......yes.
                          IMHO opiod deaths are like AIDS-they are an affliction of lifestyle, people make bad choices, do stupid things, engage in immoral behaviors....
                          "The fault, Dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves."

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                          • clintonhater
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 5220

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                            During the Civil War, morphine was all they had for long term pain. There was a song called "Soldier's joy"

                            The surgeon hands me a bottle
                            and says "drink all you can."
                            He turns around again
                            with a hacksaw in his hand,

                            Give me some more of that Soldier's Joy
                            you know what I mean
                            I can't take no more of this pain
                            My leg is turning green

                            It's 25 cents for whiskey
                            25 cents for beer
                            25 cents for morphine
                            Get me out of here!


                            After the war, morphine addiction was called "the Soldier's Disease."
                            Doubt that song was sung by Confederate soldiers. Great Humanitarian Abe Lincoln embargoed ether during the war, despite a personal appeal from Jeff Davis. Unless there was a Southern lab capable of making morphine (doubtful, I think), wounded Confederates bit the bullet.
                            Last edited by clintonhater; 08-17-2018, 07:08.

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                            • dryheat
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 10587

                              #15
                              The uncle of my old girlfriend told me, when her brothers came to visit, they taped a note on the bathroom mirror; there's nothing here that belongs to you. Heavy smokers, drinkers, druggers. They're all dead now. My ex girlfriend is still alive, but she's a drunk( the ex part).
                              If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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