Trump sought advice - well, isn't that surprising ?...

[dogtag]

I guess Presidents are supposed to know everything about everything.
Makes you wonder why they need all the various Secretaries that make
up the Cabinet and all the lawyers that clog up the coffee room.
And while we're at it, why have Generals sitting around as all they're
good for is playing with their toy soldier sets ? As they say;
"If you want it done properly, then do it yourself"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-sought-his-lawyers-advice-weeks-ago-on-possibility-of-pardoning-manafort-but-they-counseled-against-it-giuliani-says/2018/08/23/17dce5c6-a70a-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?utm_term=.293bbd0c4969

[Sandpebble]

So.... another question arises...

If the crimes committed had nothing to do with Trump ...... what would Manafourt have over him to even illicit the consideration of a pardon ?

[Sandpebble]

heheheheh .... another no answer question here on Culvers

[Vern Humphrey]

What Hunter said to Wingate.

[togor]

'Pebble, in fairness to the forum, I don't think anyone disputes the fact that Trump likes to throw his weight around, and that he is apt to be careless about it, and that this carelessness may at times get him in hot water, perhaps seriously. The argument will be that in other ways he's doing stuff long overdue, and that his heart is in the right place. If he ends up going down for breaking the law, many people will regard it as a sad day.

[Sandpebble]

that's very true Togor .... but I'm more concerned about the loyalty to that other scumbag ... Manafort

[togor]

Well Trump runs on loyalty. Mostly it's a one-way street towards him, but nonetheless, again, his penchant for it is baked into the bargain. Might backing him turn out to be a Devil's Bargain? Absolutely! For some it already has, and going back over the years, many have been burned. But no one, on the the chance that they have struck such a bargain, rushes to the day of reckoning. If Trump pardons Manafort, even though convicted on 8 of 18 counts with no less than 2 MAGA hats in the jury room, then all of the "drain the swamp" rhetoric will be officially exposed for what some of us saw it to be in the first place--BS. But better I think to stay half a beat behind events instead of getting out in front and missing the turn. As for Paul. Word is that the prosecution has been structured to leave open some state charges that are immune from double-jeopardy statutes. So a pardon might just mean time in state prisons, which are not as nice as your "club Fed" facilities.