With the disruption

[Roadkingtrax]

Apparently you have much to still learn my "friend", much to learn.
Saam

A wise man knows what he does and doesnt.

I fear your excessive virtue signaling and gaslighting is just a poor attempt to fulfill the void left by your apparent impotence. Socially or physically, I dont know?

Certainly you could find a better solution than what you've developed. You can be better, sadly you dont have anyone telling you that.

[dryheat]

Don't feed the fonzanoons.

Garp

[togor]

Togor, you are smart enough to know you can't ride on your families merits so you might as well drop that point.

Since when is carrying forward the lessons of those who came before us "riding"? Isn't the lack of that in our society the basis for 99.5% of the old man gripes posted here??? By my grandfather's standard, Boggs is just another longhair who doesn't know or care what the older generation knew or saw. To the extent that you're saying he's not worth the trouble, the point is taken and I'm getting there.

[S.A. Boggs]

Since when is carrying forward the lessons of those who came before us "riding"? Isn't the lack of that in our society the basis for 99.5% of the old man gripes posted here??? By my grandfather's standard, Boggs is just another longhair who doesn't know or care what the older generation knew or saw. To the extent that you're saying he's not worth the trouble, the point is taken and I'm getting there.

What is really perplexing is that you bring up your ancestors who fought the very ideas that you now espouse and can't tell the difference!
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

What is really perplexing is that you bring up your ancestors who fought the very ideas that you now espouse and can't tell the difference!
Sam

Well, they sneer at people who actually fought, you know.

[Roadkingtrax]

Red, what's a patriot?

[togor]

Togor lost his mind years ago. My grandfather W.J. Freeman fought in Europe in WWI. My step father (the only dad I ever had) was one of the first seabees to begin work on Henderson Field on Guadacanal, and also had battle stars from Leyte gulf and the Philippines. One of my uncles was in combat in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. My father in Law was in the Navy during WWII but got booted when they found out he was only 15 years old. So he joined the Army on his birthday. He was wounded in Korea and never recovered. He died at age 42.

None of that means a damn thing. Military veterans (including some real heroes) later in life became thieves, robbers, murderers, rapists and Presidential assassins.

I consider Sam to be a patriot while togor is a treasonous American hating jackass on the par of Oswald and Bergdahl.

Red....Red Red Red Red Red......Red,

As usual the simplest point escapes you. It's not about claiming points for ancestor's service in those European wars. It's about having a personal connection to people who saw and experienced it up close, or who took it upon themselves to understand the business there (in my father's case), based on the personal connection that people close to him had, and keeping their witness alive for as long as possible, before it is lost to the noise of passing ages.

This forum used to be loaded with southerners who held to a Confederate heritage much older than WW2, and who used that heritage for a basis of a deeper understanding of southern perspectives in that war. Now while I may have a decidedly union perspective about it, which at times agrees with them and at times disagrees, I don't dispute their connection to the Confederate heritage, or the insights that it brings them.

By contrast, Boggs and you and Vern show no real connection to the European conflict, no understanding of the Nazis, and no hesitation for glibly throwing the label around. So I periodically ring you guys up for it, and rightly so.

Let's see the three of you start making useful contributions to the site outside of 2A and the crackerbarrel. Start an interesting gun thread, Red, and spare us your old man gripes for say 72 hours.

[S.A. Boggs]

Red, what's a patriot?

Something you have no ideation of attaining.
Sam

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Red....Red Red Red Red Red......Red,

As usual the simplest point escapes you. It's not about claiming points for ancestor's service in those European wars. It's about having a personal connection to people who saw and experienced it up close, or who took it upon themselves to understand the business there (in my father's case), based on the personal connection that people close to him had.

This forum used to be loaded with southerners who held to a Confederate heritage much older than WW2, and who used that heritage for a basis of a deeper understanding of southern perspectives in that war. Now while I may have a decidedly union perspective about it, which at times agrees with them and at times disagrees, I don't dispute their connection, or the insights that it brings them.

By contrast, Boggs and you and Vern show no real connection to the European conflict, no understanding of the Nazis, and no hesitation of glibly throwing the label around. So I periodically ring you guys up for it, and rightly so.

Let's see the three of you start making useful contributions to the forum outside of 2A and the crackerbarrel. Start an interesting gun thread, Red, and spare us your old man gripes for say 72 hours.

Are you willing to respond in kind?
Sam

[togor]

Something you have no ideation of attaining.
Sam

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Are you willing to respond in kind?
Sam

http://www.jouster2.com/forums/showt...WW2-AP-Cartons

[Roadkingtrax]

Sam, I was asking Red. Thanks anyway.

[S.A. Boggs]

Sam, I was asking Red. Thanks anyway.

You are welcome,
Sam