This is why so many do not evacuate when a storm approaches

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  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10580

    #1

    This is why so many do not evacuate when a storm approaches

    This is what happens during broad daylight. Home looting is much worse and often a bigger target due to the presence of guns, jewelry, coins and better valuables than dollar stores. Law enforcement is spread out thin during these times and really not concerned about petty looting so it pretty much goes on unchecked. Other reasons are that homeowners can not get back to their homes due to downed trees, flooding, bridges/roads being washed out, having to travel across several states to find a motel room, congestion on the highways, traveling with pets and etc..

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oodwaters.html
  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #2
    These extreme weather emergencies bring out the best and the worst in people.
    There's the Cajun Navy types rescuing people,
    and there's the looters.
    The first type should receive a medal
    the other type should receive a bullet.

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    • Sandpebble
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 2196

      #3
      Fri. 13 th Aug. 2004 Hurricane Charley

      an hour after it passed the wife and I were confronting a 5 man gang attempting to enter our front door. They had come from 40 minutes south in a an area that saw no damage and didn't realise how pissed off we might be ...

      I don't mind the head pat to the Cajun navy guys... but I have to say I'm disappointed that there are many other hero's that go unsung.....

      we met a 55 year old women who left her family to sit for three weeks in sweltering heat under a tent to help people work out their insurance ....

      we scored a free meal from a crew that traveled from the other side of the state to work for free grilling dogs and burgers for any one that had a need.....

      phone service personel working to help families reconect might have got paid.... but they still left there families to be uncomfortable and help me out ...

      National Guardsmen are real heroes.... as are the boys who came from the north to battle unfamiliar heat and conditions to get my electricity back on.....

      God love em All

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #4
        You obviously missed that I said Cajun Navy TYPES - meaning all those that help.

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        • JB White
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 13371

          #5
          Originally posted by dogtag
          These extreme weather emergencies bring out the best and the worst in people.
          There's the Cajun Navy types rescuing people,
          and there's the looters.
          The first type should receive a medal
          the other type should receive a bullet.
          That's the best thing you've said all week.
          2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


          **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #6
            My grandfather was in the San Francisco earthquake of 1906. He was being discharged from the Navy and in those days you got half your mustering-out pay on one day, and had to show up a different day, shined and shaved and in uniform, to get the other half. The earthquake occurred right after he drew the first half of his pay, and when he went back for the rest, he was pressed into service, fighting fires, rescuing survivors and guarding the ruins.

            In San Francisco today, they only whisper about it, but Pop made no bones about it -- they shot looters. He told of one man with his arm all bandaged up who refused to go to the aid tent. That was suspicious, so they unwrapped his arm and found human fingers -- he was cutting the fingers off the dead to steal their rings. They just stood him up against the nearest wall and shot him,

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            • dogtag
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 14985

              #7
              Originally posted by JB White
              That's the best thing you've said all week.
              Well, thanks, I suppose.
              However, today is the first day of the week,
              so it may be the only thing I've said this week.

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              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
              My grandfather was in the San Francisco earthquake of 1906. He was being discharged from the Navy and in those days you got half your mustering-out pay on one day, and had to show up a different day, shined and shaved and in uniform, to get the other half. The earthquake occurred right after he drew the first half of his pay, and when he went back for the rest, he was pressed into service, fighting fires, rescuing survivors and guarding the ruins.

              In San Francisco today, they only whisper about it, but Pop made no bones about it -- they shot looters. He told of one man with his arm all bandaged up who refused to go to the aid tent. That was suspicious, so they unwrapped his arm and found human fingers -- he was cutting the fingers off the dead to steal their rings. They just stood him up against the nearest wall and shot him,
              When I was in Egypt, guard commanders were told that if
              a wog was shot outside the fence by mistake, then drag him in.
              Saved a lot of red tape.

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #8
                Originally posted by dogtag
                Well, thanks, I suppose.
                However, today is the first day of the week,
                so it may be the only thing I've said this week.

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                When I was in Egypt, guard commanders were told that if
                a wog was shot outside the fence by mistake, then drag him in.
                Saved a lot of red tape.
                I lived in Egypt from '54 to '56. If you shot every thief in Egypt, the country would be depopulated.

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                • dogtag
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 14985

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                  I lived in Egypt from '54 to '56. If you shot every thief in Egypt, the country would be depopulated.
                  That's when I was there late 54 to 55 which is when we moved to Cypress.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    To a certain extent, this reminds me of the Mount Saint Helens eruption in 1980. If you go there, there is a museum, and there are news clips playing constantly covering the period leading up to and beyond the eruption. Prominently featured are clips of Harry R. Truman (not Harry S. Truman). He and his wife ran a fishing camp at Spirit Lake at the base of the mountain. He was well into his 80s and his wife had passed away. He still lived in the old camp, and refused to evacuate. Today, he is buried under 600 feet of volcanic debris.

                    Because of him, Oregon changed the law. Now if the Governor orders an evacuation, you have to go. They'll remove you forcibly if necessary.

                    I've thought about that. Where the hell would Harry R. Truman go if he evacuated? He'd probably wind up in a nursing home and slowly decline. Basically, he had a choice between risking a quick death, and a slow and miserable death. Who is to say his choice was the wrong choice?
                    Last edited by Vern Humphrey; 09-17-2018, 02:53.

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                    • m1ashooter
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 3220

                      #11
                      If a person doesn't want to evac then we should spend zero resources and risk zero lives rescuing them.
                      To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by m1ashooter
                        If a person doesn't want to evac then we should spend zero resources and risk zero lives rescuing them.
                        That's reasonable. Blondie Hasler, leader of the Cockleshell Heroes in WWII, and a key player in forming the Observer-Star Transatlantic Race for sailboats, always said yachtsmen should not carry radio transmitters, "Because we go to sea for our own pleasure and have no right to ask someone else to risk his life to rescue us."

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