Senator Cruz and the protestors.

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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #16
    Ah, Vernon, give 'em the ol' Bull Connor treatment, eh?

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #17
      Don't feed the fonzanoons.

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      • clintonhater
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 5220

        #18
        Originally posted by togor
        Ah, Vernon, give 'em the ol' Bull Connor treatment, eh?
        It's the only language rioters understand.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #19
          Originally posted by clintonhater
          It's the only language rioters understand.
          How well did it work out in Birmingham? Rhetorical question.

          This thread actually gets at something important, perhaps unwittingly. I'll be succinct.

          Inasmuch as the reactionary right would prefer no protests at all from the left, there is nonetheless some of that same visceral reaction to a mildly confrontational encounter with Senator Cruz as there is towards heavy violence (often state power) used to suppress legitimate protests or citizen activity. Non-violent methods work in the long run because they are a much more powerful means of drawing sympathetic feelings towards the cause and drawing away legitimacy from the object of the protests. Somewhere deep in our human wiring there is a strong reaction to violence or the hint thereof. Hassling Cruz in a restaurant in this light is counter-productive.

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          • Mark in Ottawa
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1744

            #20
            If we are naming difficult women, let us not forget Lorena Bobbitt (She was the one who decided to circumcise her husband but got carried away.) See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11297

              #21
              do nothing,

              absolutely nothing,

              except leave,

              don't give them any reason to go more 'stupid' and do not raise your hand towards them,

              if they hit you, step back, pull you phone and start filming as you dial 911

              if the restaurant folks do nothing (you are a paying customer correct??) let them know your displeasure, and never frequent them again,
              don't bother with yelp, tripadvisor etc, since that will only cause more rukus,

              however,

              if the wife and I were in a restaurant, and some public figure was harassed enough for us to enjoy our meal, the management would know about it pronto, and if nothing done,,

              we would likely leave and never return,

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              • PWC
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 1387

                #22
                I think it depends on the business owner. The restuarant is private property opened to the public as long as they do not create a hazard or nusance. Owner should call the police.

                On a public street, public building, protesters have to have a permit I believe, don't they? Wouldn't that crimp a spontaneous protest?

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #23
                  Originally posted by PWC
                  On a public street, public building, protesters have to have a permit I believe, don't they? Wouldn't that crimp a spontaneous protest?
                  Hell no, because they know they aren't likely to be arrested, & even if they are, charges are almost always dismissed by DAs who don't have time to sweat the small stuff. These disruptions wouldn't be going on all the time if there were serious consequences. Think any of those screaming, sign-waving, rioters in the Senate hearing are worried?

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                  Originally posted by lyman
                  if the restaurant folks do nothing (you are a paying customer correct??) let them know your displeasure, and never frequent them again
                  Most important--leave without paying your bill!

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #24
                    And if injured, sue the restaurant for failing to act promptly to eject the people who injured you.

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8579

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                      And if injured, sue the restaurant for failing to act promptly to eject the people who injured you.
                      Lefties like to cite "hurt feelings", I wonder if a lawsuit against protecting patrons could be in order? Two can play at that game.
                      Sam

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #26
                        Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                        Lefties like to cite "hurt feelings", I wonder if a lawsuit against protecting patrons could be in order? Two can play at that game.
                        Sam
                        Particularly like the Little Red Rectum restaurant in Lexington, VA -- the proprietor initiated the harassment of Sarah Sanders. He (or she) should pay dearly for that.

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11297

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                          Particularly like the Little Red Rectum restaurant in Lexington, VA -- the proprietor initiated the harassment of Sarah Sanders. He (or she) should pay dearly for that.
                          she, and she was forced off the tourism board or some such she was on for the city,

                          no idea how her restaurant is doing, plenty of liberal types in that town and area,

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #28
                            Originally posted by lyman
                            she, and she was forced off the tourism board or some such she was on for the city,

                            no idea how her restaurant is doing, plenty of liberal types in that town and area,
                            I'm talking about a lawsuit -- Sarah Sanders ought to own that restaurant by the time the case is over.

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                            • S.A. Boggs
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 8579

                              #29
                              In Ohio companies can post the no gun signs on concealed carry. I politely inform the owners that under Ohio law if I carry into their establishment the burden is on myself and not them. If they deny me the right of self protection then THEY are guarantying me and my families safety in their establishment. If anything goes wrong, their establishment will be hit with a ten million dollar lawsuit! Funny, the signs seem to disappear then. One see's more no smoking then no gun signs locally now and that is a good thing.
                              Sam

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                              • Vern Humphrey
                                Administrator - OFC
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 15875

                                #30
                                Extend that to protecting people from harassment and simple assault. If it happens in YOUR establishment, YOU are responsible.

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