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  • jjrothWA
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1148

    #1

    What is the support for.....

    an amendment for term-limits of the Congress, one term for senate and one three year term for Representatives?

    One term of each!
  • Major Tom
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 6181

    #2
    I'm all for term limits for Senators and representatives. Two terms and yer out!
    Also, the U.S. Supreme Court justices; there should be an age limit for them. I'd say 70-75 years old and then retire. The life long terms they have now are antiquated. That one old bag lady on the Court can't remember her middle name or stand up without a walker.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      I guess the simplest way of pointing out what could go wrong with that idea is to imagine if that rule had been in effect when the founding fathers were trying to get things organized. Politics at the national level does require some soft skills in human interactions, and some deep understandings of the institutions. If you take out the institutional leaders and replace them with a moving conveyor of cookie-cutter legislators there on TDY, I don't expect that the performance of the institution is going to get better. If anything, it's too much like that today. You have caucuses on both sides of the aisle filled with legislators from safe districts that take extreme positions in Congress and don't really want to get anything done besides playing to their media cheering sections.

      Having said all that, one thing that doesn't get a lot of play in the press these days is that Congress for the first time in over a decade (or longer) is getting appropriations bills done on time. The best explanation I've heard is that it is a bit of an accident, that both parties have decided for their own reasons to move the appropriations bills along.

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      • S.A. Boggs
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 8579

        #4
        Originally posted by togor
        I guess the simplest way of pointing out what could go wrong with that idea is to imagine if that rule had been in effect when the founding fathers were trying to get things organized. Politics at the national level does require some soft skills in human interactions, and some deep understandings of the institutions. If you take out the institutional leaders and replace them with a moving conveyor of cookie-cutter legislators there on TDY, I don't expect that the performance of the institution is going to get better. If anything, it's too much like that today. You have caucuses on both sides of the aisle filled with legislators from safe districts that take extreme positions in Congress and don't really want to get anything done besides playing to their media cheering sections.

        Having said all that, one thing that doesn't get a lot of play in the press these days is that Congress for the first time in over a decade (or longer) is getting appropriations bills done on time. The best explanation I've heard is that it is a bit of an accident, that both parties have decided for their own reasons to move the appropriations bills along.
        Another way to look at it is that we have a Business President who believes that the business of the Republic is business and putting people back to work. Last week at Wal-Mart they had open hiring. A person talks to an applicant, the person fills out an application and gets an immediate interview. I understand 30 people were hired that day contingent of passing a drug screening and back ground check. Some are on the job as of yesterday! Menards is constructing a new store, the construction has started laying in the utilities and clearing the land. Menards decided to come to town after the election of 2016 and bought ten acres of very expensive land in the city. This will now have the affect of hiring more people locally and a dramatic decrease in the unemployment roles. Jobs now go begging for the first time in recent memory, I had to go out of state to find carpenters. Yes sir, things are getting mighty tough under the new Sheriff in town.
        Sam

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        • Allen
          Moderator
          • Sep 2009
          • 10627

          #5
          I'm a firm believer in term limits AND family limits but since nothing has been done about it for the past 100 years or so I wouldn't push the issue now since we finally have control of the house, senate and soon the supreme court.

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          • bruce
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3759

            #6
            Re: OP. None. None at all. The few of us who are in favor of such stuff are simply not a significant number to make any difference at all. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
            " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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            • Mark in Ottawa
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 1744

              #7
              To give you an example for comparison, here in Canada the age limit for both the Supreme Court and the Senate, is 75 years, at which time retirement is mandatory.

              There are no term limits for Members of Parliament and a few years ago there was one Member who retired just before his 50th anniversary. Note that the Canadian Senate is appointed not elected and that Members serve until age 75

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #8
                There should be term limits for both elected officials and members of the judiciary.

                Imagine if we develop life extending science -- and imagine living in a country ruled by congressmen and judges who have been in office for a hundred years, growing more arrogant and more disconnected every year!

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                • dogtag
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 14985

                  #9
                  Would you vote yourself out of a job ?
                  No ?
                  Nor will they.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dogtag
                    Would you vote yourself out of a job ?
                    No ?
                    Nor will they.
                    That's why we need to throw them a bone. Let's say 12 years for ALL elected officials and judges. BUT those in elected office in the year of ratification will count the year following the NEXT election as their first year.

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                      There should be term limits for both elected officials and members of the judiciary.

                      Imagine if we develop life extending science -- and imagine living in a country ruled by congressmen and judges who have been in office for a hundred years, growing more arrogant and more disconnected every year!
                      Interesting observation, that some people, especially those inclined to run for Congress, get more arrogant and disconnected by the year. Don't disagree--just surprised at what amounts to an admission.

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        I wonder if this revelation that his imagination of what other people think is deeply flawed will sink in?

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Who's winning?

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                          • blackhawknj
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 3754

                            #14
                            Yes term limits and perhaps, if you run for one you can't run for the other. Also those who have served as elected officials are ineligible for judicial appointments. 2 terms in the Senate, 10-12 in the House, then GO HOME !

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                            • PWC
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1386

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dogtag
                              Would you vote yourself out of a job ?
                              No ?
                              Nor will they.
                              That's why the OP stated an amendment as in to the constitution.

                              There is already an amendment floating around, I believe 15 or 16 states have approved; don't remember what it is tho. Given what is happening now I think there would be lots of support, but it is too late to get it on any states ballots, and time heals all memories, so the next time there is a vote, more"pressing" issues will push term limits from the stage.

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