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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    What could the democrats achieve if they win the House ? ...

    Yes, they could stymie anything Trump might want to do
    in the next two years, but if they do win, it will probably
    give them a very small majority. Anything they themselves
    would like to accomplish will be shot down in the Senate,
    or vetoed. Impeaching Trump and or Kavanaugh has
    zero chance and would be a waste of time trying although
    wasting time is what democrats excel at. They can't really
    achieve anything of any consequence like repealing the
    tax cuts, and as the President has already got done most
    of what he promised to get done, it seems to me their only
    victory will be to vote no money for the wall. Yes it would
    be far preferable for Trump to have both houses on his side,
    but the loss of the House - should it happen - big iffy - it
    will not be the end of the world.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Well they can help the country get the straight dope on what the administration is/isn't doing about foreign election interference, or what kinds of sweethart deals connected insiders are getting from BLM, Interior, FDA, FEMA, etc. Not to mention what public/private foreign conflicts might be present in the administration due to Trump, inc. There is no good reason that that it should fall to Democrats to do this but one would expect that the odds of of tough oversight to go up.

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      Originally posted by dogtag
      Yes, they could stymie anything Trump might want to do
      in the next two years, but if they do win, it will probably
      give them a very small majority. Anything they themselves
      would like to accomplish will be shot down in the Senate,
      or vetoed. Impeaching Trump and or Kavanaugh has
      zero chance and would be a waste of time trying although
      wasting time is what democrats excel at. They can't really
      achieve anything of any consequence like repealing the
      tax cuts, and as the President has already got done most
      of what he promised to get done, it seems to me their only
      victory will be to vote no money for the wall. Yes it would
      be far preferable for Trump to have both houses on his side,
      but the loss of the House - should it happen - big iffy - it
      will not be the end of the world.
      They could increase our taxes, plunge us back into recession, hike the Unemployment rate to 10%, drive jobs back overseas, double the violent crime rate and otherwise convert this country into a Socialist Utopia.

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
        They could increase our taxes, plunge us back into recession, hike the Unemployment rate to 10%, drive jobs back overseas, double the violent crime rate and otherwise convert this country into a Socialist Utopia.
        How's that deficit spending treating you? We can't even service our interest in our debt at above 75% of our GDP.

        I realize it's a chess game, stack the deck and hope SS and Medicare have to be cut in the hands of the Dems.

        We need to cut spending now, you know, what a real conservative president would do.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #5
          Don't feed the fonzanoons.

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          • Roadkingtrax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 7835

            #6
            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
            Don't feed the fonzanoons.
            I'll accept that as your admittance of the truth as stated.
            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Vernon's stock reply is a curious mix of passive-aggressive and controlling behavior. The reply is superficially directed not at you but at everyone else who might read your post, and in the form of a directive to them. Repetition has sanded the edges off of it, to the point where yeah, it can now be read as an alternative form of "well played, sir." Who says we can't all get along?
              Last edited by togor; 10-10-2018, 01:37.

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                They could increase our taxes, plunge us back into recession, hike the Unemployment rate to 10%, drive jobs back overseas, double the violent crime rate and otherwise convert this country into a Socialist Utopia.
                HOW ? Talk sense. Did you forget about the Senate ? About the Veto ?

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8568

                  #9
                  The answer is nothing! The Senate has to concur with the House so unless the Senate agrees Democratic bills will just sit there.
                  Sam

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dogtag
                    HOW ? Talk sense. Did you forget about the Senate ? About the Veto ?
                    Thanks, DT. Yesterday we had a post stating "anyone who has read the Constitution knows...". No worries, Vernon. All good!
                    Last edited by togor; 10-10-2018, 05:37.

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dogtag
                      HOW ? Talk sense. Did you forget about the Senate ? About the Veto ?
                      If they take the House, they have the whip hand with money -- all spending bills originate in the House. And vetos can be over-ridden. The best we could hope for is no more improvements in the economy as gridlock paralyzes government.

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                      • dogtag
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 14985

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                        If they take the House, they have the whip hand with money -- all spending bills originate in the House. And vetos can be over-ridden. The best we could hope for is no more improvements in the economy as gridlock paralyzes government.
                        They can't override a veto. They can't do diddly.

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                        • JOHN COOK
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 711

                          #13
                          They can't override a veto. They can't do diddly.
                          I am of the same opinion. If i"m wrong please correct me. The only veto which can be over ridden is a Presidential veto and that requires 2/3 of the House and the Senate. and most states follow the guide lines with their Governor. I stand to be corrected.. But I know someone will show their ARSE and flame me. So light me up .

                          john
                          Last edited by JOHN COOK; 10-11-2018, 02:35. Reason: spelling
                          “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36)

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8568

                            #14
                            Gent's I believe that we are getting upset over nothing. Everywhere the President holds a meeting the line is quite long and the buildings are quite large. I look to see a repeat of two years ago with the MSM telling that Hillary will be the next one in the oval office.
                            Sam

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #15
                              I sincerely hope we win the mid-terms. But anyone who thinks a Democrat victory in November won't be a disaster is fooling himself.

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