Khashoggi Killing Took 7 Minutes: He Was Cut Up While Still Alive

[Allen]

We really ought to care. he was a journalist who was from Saudi Arabia and was critical of the Saudi government. He went to the Saudi embassy on business and was detained, beaten, interrogated, tortured and finally killed by a Saudi hit squad. The Saudi's are not our friends, never were. They financed 9/11 and have taken our money with one hand and funneled it to jihadists with the other. No one says much because big business is making too much money from their association with the Saudis.

Thanks Mike. This is the best and only explanation I've seen to where we should have any interest in this matter. I wondered why all the hoop-pa-lah over a muslim. He even wore the taliban table cloth crap on his head but if he was trying to speak out against the Saudi's he couldn't have been all bad. Not the best place to do it though. He knew what they were like and he was killed the same way the muslims kill everyone else.

Hopefully this will limit our trading and arms sales to the Saudi's. I've read where they are on the list to purchase some of our F35's even.

[JB White]

We're skipping a certain point. Not only was he publicly berating the Saudi government, he was also former Saudi intelligence. He was a security risk ever since he began opening his mouth.
They could have popped him in the head instead of dissecting him while alive, but that's their way. At least that's how I grasp it. Muslim Mengele said he always listens to music when he does that. Sick Fu......

[togor]

Let's swap labels around. If Snowden were to walk into a building in Berlin and get chopped into pieces by CIA agents on the job, would the Germans feel they had a right to be pissed? Would countries that think of themselves as our friends be justified in saying "WTF is wrong with the Americans now?" It's the brazenness of the act and the indifference to that brazenness which create problems.

[Vern Humphrey]

We ought to care because this is a wedge between our allies, Turkey and Saudi Arabia (as imperfect as those two countries all.) It can be exploited by our enemies -- such as Iran.

[togor]

We ought to care because this is a wedge between our allies, Turkey and Saudi Arabia (as imperfect as those two countries all.) It can be exploited by our enemies -- such as Iran.

Fair point.

[m1ashooter]

Vern I'm wondering why the Turks are raising all the fuss. What do they want from the Saudi's?

[Vern Humphrey]

Their main claim is invasion of sovereignty. They're very touchy about that -- remember they invaded Cyprus over that issue.

[RED]

99.9% of everything you hear about Khashoggi and his demise is made up BS. First of all he was a OBL disciple, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, and a radical Islamist, he was in no way a journalist. The Turkish President, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a radical Islamist, and is siding with Iran. His country is a member of NATO in name only and is conducting a systematic ethnic cleansing of the 10 million Kurds that live in Turkey.

Meanwhile, the Saudi Crown Prince has eased restrictions on Saudi women allowing them to drive and appear in public unaccompanied. He is trying to redirect the Saudi economy away from exclusively oil exports and into other areas, like building a new city from the ground up. In addition, he and the Saudi's have sided with the U.S. in Yemen and opposes Iran's possession of nuclear weapons. Tomorrow's headlines will be:

"Trump personally flew to Turkey and offed, freedom loving Journalist, Khashoggi."

[barretcreek]

Not to downplay the several valid points about the political repercussions of this and the brutality of what probably happened (has any outside source heard the recording?)

Just remember what this same bunch did to Col. Wm. Higgins.

[RED]

Not to downplay the several valid points about the political repercussions of this and the brutality of what probably happened (has any outside source heard the recording?)

(has any outside source heard the recording?) NO and how do you know there was a recording? The "story" is that his girl friend was tuned into his Apple Watch and listening. My best friend and his wife are Apple junkies and have all the newest and best devices. They are saying that would be possible only if both the watch and the iphone were on the Embassy's wi-fi which requires a pass word. There is also something about a LTE (whatever them are?) that would not have been available there. In any event, I read where it took 7 minutes for him to die while the killers listened to music and cut him up with a bone saw. If they heard a audio recording how do they know exactly the moment he died? How do they know it was a bone saw and not a carpenters saw? Was the music Rap, Rock or Crock? Was the music used to coverup the victim's cries from pain, or was it to soothe the feelings of the murderers? Had you been outside the embassy in a car, would you have sat thru the 7 minutes of torture or would you have hurried off thinking you might be next?

Just thinking...

[togor]

LTE refers to a cellular comms standard and yes they have it in Turkey. So if he had the fancy watch he might have had an open call going when it all went down. Not a terrible precaution if you're concerned about walking into a trap to have an open line to someone on the outside.

[RED]

LTE refers to a cellular comms standard and yes they have it in Turkey. So if he had the fancy watch he might have had an open call going when it all went down. Not a terrible precaution if you're concerned about walking into a trap to have an open line to someone on the outside.

You know EVERYTHING... How did you get so smart?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/khas...mpossible.html

[togor]

Geeze Red it ain't a contest. I know something of this tech from my day job. If it were me I'd have an open line via cell call, but if his Gizmo didn't support that, well sucks to be him I guess.

[Bill D]

Togor backpedals. Will wonders ever cease.

[dryheat]

Our allies, Saudi and Turks vrs. Iran. Gawd I hate the middle east.