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  • Mark in Ottawa
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1744

    #1

    Canada Goes to Pot

    As of midnight last night, the ownership, use and growing of marijuana for personal use is now legal. Everybody over age 18 or 19 depending on which province they live in can legally purchase 30 grams at a time and every household can grow up to 4 plants. The legislation is federal and applies over the whole country but each province can manage the marketing according to their wishes. In some provinces, all sales will be through government owned stores; in others sales will be through licenced private sector stores. It will be possible to order pot on-line and in Ontario for the moment that will be the only legal approach although private sector stores will be open soon.

    As you can imagine, the newsmedia having been having an orgasm; imagine being able to fill masses of air time and pages and pages of stories with ease, all with discussions on the implications of the new legislation.

    And the implications are pretty extreme. The new legislation has been a godsend to some. Investors purchased a very large empty factory in a small town near Ottawa called Smith's Falls. The factory had been closed 10 years ago by Hershey's Chocolates and has been the main employer. The town was dying. The investors started a marijuana growing and distribution centre and started to employ a lot of people. Estimates appear to be that there will soon be over 2,000 staff. Property values are soaring and the local economy is now booming. As for the company its stock is booming as well as are other legitimate marijuana stocks. My wife met some at a bridge club who told her that a couple of years ago her stockbroker recommended that she invest in pot stocks. She put in $50,000 and told her that the stock is now worth about $1 million. Alas my wife and I both decided that we would not invest in pot; her because as a high school teacher she had had too many students come to class high and I, because I disapprove of drugs and had worked as a civilian in a police agency for 14 years. (There really is a price to be paid for living according to principles)

    Other implications are a lot more serious. There is no reliable accepted test for being high and the prediction is for a lot more traffic accidents. Marijuana in edible form can be accidently consumed by children and since the effect is delayed by up to two hours, overdoses are anticipated. Nobody knows how this will effect the illegal trade in pot but penalties for selling it have been increased as have penalties for providing it to minors.

    As for the government, I believe that the real reason for legalizing pot was a desire by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to appeal to younger voters. The Liberals have a long history of doing anything to buy votes and this is no exception. We will see in one year when we have the next general election
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Here you go, Mark. This song is for you!



    The 70's were more fun than any decade since, IMO. Personal observation? Uh huh. Totally objective!

    PS: Weed will fry brains, both young and old, but no worse than those glowing 5" screens that everyone already has, and so far as I am aware there is no talk of banning those.
    Last edited by togor; 10-17-2018, 05:33.

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8568

      #3
      From having dealt with active addicts this is just the start of the road to much worse addiction. Every major addict I treated started on "innocent" weed!
      Sam

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #4
        Sam, the liberals will attack you for that. Their doctrine is that marijuana is NOT a gateway drug.

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        • clintonhater
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 5220

          #5
          Originally posted by togor
          PS: Weed will fry brains, both young and old, but no worse than those glowing 5" screens that everyone already has, and so far as I am aware there is no talk of banning those.
          "Everyone" doesn't include me.

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10583

            #6
            I'm assuming Canada is also building additional prisons and hiring extra police officers to combat all the upcoming DUI and public intoxication charges?

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            • Ken The Kanuck
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 4094

              #7
              Hi Mark,

              Congrats on breaking a thousand.

              KTK

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              • dryheat
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 10587

                #8
                Colorado is a "free" state so to speak when it comes to pot. It has attracted a greater amount of burnouts. But, It's incredible that the Canadian pot co. has done so phenomenally well. I follow stocks a little and it's huge. Young people should not be smoking anything. I've seen what I think are the results from limited observation. They are a little stoned forever. The edible stuff is dangerous. I know a guy who kind of likes pot. He won't touch the edible stuff after too scary experiences. I can't imagine what would happen to a little kid that picked up a piece of pot gummy bear. More looseness all around. Sex, drugs, anything goes these days. MAYBE a little weed doesn't hurt all that much. Loads of people have dabbled and lived(I personally don't like drugs), but for some reason a looser attitude seems to go across the boards. It seems heroin overdoses and deaths/near deaths(thanks pharma) are on the rise as well. A connection? I remember Barbara Walters asking M. Jack. sister, "didn't anyone say, Michael, it just doesn't look good?"
                If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10583

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dryheat
                  Young people should not be smoking anything. I've seen what I think are the results from limited observation. They are a little stoned forever.
                  Kids today ARE stoned forever w/o ever touching the stuff and yes they aren't observant and don't want to be taught anything either.

                  - - - Updated - - -

                  Originally posted by dryheat
                  MAYBE a little weed doesn't hurt all that much.
                  I imagine every drug addict that's ever lived has said this at one time or another.
                  Last edited by Allen; 10-17-2018, 08:56.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    Nobody is a drug addict before he takes his first hit. Stay away from the stuff in all it's forms and you'll never wind up in the gutter with abscesses on your arms.

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                    • sid
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3198

                      #11
                      Marijuana absolutely is a gateway drug. The active chemicals remain in the brain forever. Our FDA has stated that we are now in the same position with marijuana as we were with tobacco in 1920. They stated this after the Great Obama announced that marijuana was safer than smoking cigarettes. After all, he smoked pot and snorted cocaine when he was young and look how smart it made him.

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                      • blackhawknj
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3754

                        #12
                        Interesting how tobacco use is condemned as a health threat and has gone out of fashion while pot smoking is now "chic". And nice to know we're not the only country where public education is such a waste of money due to drug use.
                        Those glowing 5" screens have on-off switches.
                        I've never known anyone who had an alcoholic in the family who found it enjoyable. Now we'll have a couple of generations who'll find out a parent who is a dopehead......
                        And all the respiratory problems from pot-smoking-Canada's magnificent public health system is well equipped to deal with that.
                        Last edited by blackhawknj; 10-17-2018, 01:11.

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #13
                          Fifty years from now, lawyers will be making billions off of the "Marijuana Settlement."

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8568

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sid
                            Marijuana absolutely is a gateway drug. The active chemicals remain in the brain forever. Our FDA has stated that we are now in the same position with marijuana as we were with tobacco in 1920. They stated this after the Great Obama announced that marijuana was safer than smoking cigarettes. After all, he smoked pot and snorted cocaine when he was young and look how smart it made him.
                            Sid and I have walked the same street with the SMI who self medicate. Found a client dead on his front porch who had O.D., started with weed. The surprised look on his face, the open dead eyes. Yea, tell us about the "safe" drug cannabis and I can tell you stories about the addict who sold his wheel chair bound 14 year old sister. THC does great damage as does the smoke for your lungs, safer then tobacco/alcohol. Yea, how safe is this stuff? When I was doing my chemo tx I saw many people there who used that safe tobacco. How about the active alcoholic with a wet brain.
                            Sam

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                            • Sandpebble
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 2196

                              #15
                              I don't smoke weed... though I have some 30 years ago or so . ... A gateway drug?..... far as I remember any one that ever smoked weed started with a beer ... there's your gateway .

                              Suddenly in Canada it's become legal to huff a joint.... the fear of weed high drivers all over the roads... ? OMG ! ... new users suddenly interested in other means to get high ? ....OMG ! horse crap..

                              Horse crap because all the present laws never prevented the use of weed...... any one interested in it is allready using it . They are allready driving your streets high. And I don't believe for a moment that untold amounts of people are now going to suddenly say ....

                              " Hey... it's legal... lets smoke weed !" .... anyone with the interest is already doing it legal or not .

                              Some states in the United States actually have State only operated liquour store liquor sales ... like NH.... which go's against the countries monopoly laws if you ask me . Those stores are conveniently located on State and Interstate highways conveniently at every tool booth......

                              Latest report I've read from Canada is that only 20 % of its population has interest in smoking weed...... and they are allready doing it.

                              relax ..... we've got much larger problems than weed....

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