What exactly will democrat voters be voting for ? ...

[togor]

Actually I am a very decent guy, but decent men can be pushed too far by people willing to take advantage of them. I'm surrounded by illegal aliens from south of our borders. The majority of them seem to be unwilling to embrace the values of our nation. I have many that will not learn English and then get pissed at me because I don't speak Spanish. I don't want to see one person hurt trying to enter our country by breaking the laws of our land however it is their choice. They need to understand that they are putting themselves in harms way by trying to enter our Nation. Right now for decades its been a big game played by both sides and most of these people know that very little will happen to them if the enter the country illegally. It is my understanding that we have developed crowd control weapons that doesn't involve the use of conventional weapons. Who knows maybe these will be used against this group.

I hear you man, I really do, and it shows up in strange ways. Up here they use illegals for the big dairy farms. Well the price of milk is down in part because of excess supply, and that costs the government more in farmer aid. And yes I do think "WTF buddy" when some dairy farmer gets quoted saying "I voted for Trump but didn't think he'd do *that*"

It's a really tough problem and it's going to get worse as climate change stresses the lower latitudes. A policy that works @1K people/year doesn't hold up at 50K/yr or 100K/yr. And yeah some here say the more the merrier.

But leaning on a gun barrel isn't the answer IMO.

[barretcreek]

Let me repeat myself. Tell these folks if you cross our border without legal status and say you are oppressed, a victim of violent gangs or some other sob story this is what will happen. You will be conscripted, trained and equipped and returned to your aptly described 'hole' to fix it.

We have spent generations extolling our way of life and instead of emulating us the third world just wants to freeload.

If that was our stated policy this crap would end right now.

[clintonhater]

And yes I do think "WTF buddy" when some dairy farmer gets quoted saying "I voted for Trump but didn't think he'd do *that*"

What's "that"? Force Canada to scale back the extreme protection of their dairy industry?

Let illegals milk cows, pick apples, etc., SO LONG as they've got Green Cards & don't bring their whole fkng family with them!

[togor]

What's "that"? Force Canada to scale back the extreme protection of their dairy industry?

Let illegals milk cows, pick apples, etc., SO LONG as they've got Green Cards & don't bring their whole fkng family with them!

*THAT* = crack down on the use of illegals in the dairy industry. Dairy farmers have been leaning on Mexicans for over twenty years now. The hours are lousy and the pay is low in a milking parlor. And caring for cows ain't picking apples. A lot more to it, takes the right kind of man (or woman) for the job, which means that family men are preferred if possible.

[Allen]

What's "that"? Force Canada to scale back the extreme protection of their dairy industry?

Let illegals milk cows, pick apples, etc., SO LONG as they've got Green Cards & don't bring their whole fkng family with them!

By eliminating welfare these jobs will gladly be taken by citizens who now find it easier to just not work at all. No more green cards or visa's would ever need to be issued again and illegals are just that "illegal". It looks like all free world countries need to eliminate welfare.

[clintonhater]

A lot more to it, takes the right kind of man (or woman) for the job, which means that family men are preferred if possible.

Plenty of white American whores available to serve that purpose, though they prefer Haitians.

[togor]

Plenty of white American whores available to serve that purpose, though they prefer Haitians.

Boy those talking points they give you are pretty negative. Don't forget we helped you guys out in WW2.

[S.A. Boggs]

Boy those talking points they give you are pretty negative. Don't forget we helped you guys out in WW2.

How long has it been since you immigrated from Haiti?
Sam

[barretcreek]

Several years ago there was a documentary (NPR?) about an automated dairy farm. Cows learned to enter an automated milking shed, each had the quantity of milk recorded. Very few personnel required.

Naturally it was not in the U.S. Our tax policy would axe that at the 'clean sheet of paper' stage.

https://www.automateddairy.com/ We have caught up.

[Roadkingtrax]

Several years ago there was a documentary (NPR?) about an automated dairy farm. Cows learned to enter an automated milking shed, each had the quantity of milk recorded. Very few personnel required.

Naturally it was not in the U.S. Our tax policy would axe that at the 'clean sheet of paper' stage.

A local dairy conglomerate here even uses active monitoring, like a cow Fitbit, they can tell by the number of steps it takes on a daily basis how its feeling and what it's doing.

I imagine that cuts back on personnel as well.

[togor]

One difference between European and American food rules is that Euro dairies can have a higher amount of cow pen residue in the milk than is allowed in the US. They figure this is the point of pasteurization. Something to consider on your next Euro holiday. Yes there is increasing automation in dairy but not everyone has it and the hours still stink. I do know one guy who goes the other way--minimizing his input costs. His milk goes to specialty cheese and he's mostly grass fed on his herd and he shuts his cows down for the winter. It helps that he has no debt load and at that there is another off farm income for the household. A must have these days unless someone is running a CAFO.

[clintonhater]

Boy those talking points they give you are pretty negative.

No talking points needed to observe the domestic situation a few miles down the same road I live on. One of the town whores took up with a Haitian farm worker; fortunately, she was past the breeding age. But her teenage daughter was not, & later took up herself with a Haitian friend of her whore-mother's stud. So now, living in the same house, are two white whores (blondes, BTW), two Haitian studs, & at least one (so far) half-Haitian bastard. Beautiful arrangement, Togor would no doubt say.

[S.A. Boggs]

One difference between European and American food rules is that Euro dairies can have a higher amount of cow pen residue in the milk than is allowed in the US. They figure this is the point of pasteurization. Something to consider on your next Euro holiday. Yes there is increasing automation in dairy but not everyone has it and the hours still stink. I do know one guy who goes the other way--minimizing his input costs. His milk goes to specialty cheese and he's mostly grass fed on his herd and he shuts his cows down for the winter. It helps that he has no debt load and at that there is another off farm income for the household. A must have these days unless someone is running a CAFO.

How about answering my question?
Sam

[togor]

No talking points needed to observe the domestic situation a few miles down the same road I live on. One of the town whores took up with a Haitian farm worker; fortunately, she was past the breeding age. But her teenage daughter was not, & later took up herself with a Haitian friend of her whore-mother's stud. So now, living in the same house, are two white whores (blondes, BTW), two Haitian studs, & at least one (so far) half-Haitian bastard. Beautiful arrangement, Togor would no doubt say.

Are they paying taxes? On the dole? In trouble with the law? Letting the place get run-down? Decent next-door neighbors? That's what togor would care about. Your fixation on race mixing and homosexuality are right out of the current Russian playbook. And I can't help but notice that the only time you ever get really fired up is if someone slags the Motherland.

[clintonhater]

Are they paying taxes? On the dole? In trouble with the law? Letting the place get run-down? Decent next-door neighbors? That's what togor would care about. Your fixation on race mixing and homosexuality are right out of the current Russian playbook. And I can't help but notice that the only time you ever get really fired up is if someone slags the Motherland.

In other words, as I predicted you'd say, a "beautiful arrangement." Just can't have too many mulattoes!

The older whore has or had some kind of job, but you think the teenage whore didn't head straight for the nearest welfare office the day she could prove she was preggo?