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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #16
    Originally posted by bruce
    One man shoots Congressmen. Another man mails faux bombs. Can it really be said that either man is somehow representative of one side or the other? JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
    Good question Bruce. But unfortunately this past week it was 3 actions, not one, coming from the same fringe corner of the map. In theory this is when leaders are supposed to step up. If the past is any guide then this will not happen. CNN and Fox appear to be locked in an outrage death match over a finite pool of cable TV viewers. And Trump stokes this on both sides by insisting on being THE STORY on cable TV, to the point of griping that the bomber was costing him news cycles. He's the top guy and it goes with the job that people would look to his office to steady the country at least a little when things get crazy. It goes to tone and yes he is plainly a contributor to what is out there. The problem is that if he takes on ownership of even one drop of the negative juice that is out there then he risks breaking the spell with the base. The most anyone can expect is temporary breaks while they mop up the blood. And it's only going to get worse in the next two years as Trump and his opponents dial up the rhetoric.
    Last edited by togor; 10-28-2018, 03:16.

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #17
      Originally posted by togor
      In theory this is when leaders are supposed to step up. If the past is any guide then this will not happen.
      And do what exactly? Trump has already denounced as "terrorism" such incidents...what else can he do? If for ex. he caved in to the Dems calculated plan to swamp the country with illegals, if he rolled out the red carpet for them as the Dems want, would that bring an end to such terrorism...or would it encourage it?

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10583

        #18
        Originally posted by dogtag
        I wouldn't call Greta a beauty exactly, but she did leave Fox.
        Agree. I always assumed Greta got the job on FOX by being a relative of someone and was surprised she left. She was in fact a little hard to look at.

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        • barretcreek
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 6065

          #19
          [QUOTE=Allen;542190]Agree. I always assumed Greta got the job on FOX by being a relative of someone and was surprised she left.

          Greta's hubby is/was a left wing lawyer who was a big wheel in the tobacco settlement. Coals? Coale.
          Last edited by barretcreek; 10-28-2018, 06:49.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #20
            Originally posted by clintonhater
            And do what exactly? Trump has already denounced as "terrorism" such incidents...what else can he do? If for ex. he caved in to the Dems calculated plan to swamp the country with illegals, if he rolled out the red carpet for them as the Dems want, would that bring an end to such terrorism...or would it encourage it?
            Comrade, as you know, his denouncements are typically pri-forma, often read passages, and lack the free-wheeling energy he brings to his extemporaneous bashing of the press, the other political party, or anyone who crosses his path. He presents them with the enthusiam expected of terms-of-use boilerplate that has to be gotten out of the way before we can get back to the fun here at the rally. So taking the responsibility of his office seriously in this regard would be a start but it won't happen because of the implied admission that entails. Just the way Ivan likes it too. The more divided America is, the better for Putin the logic says.

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            • clintonhater
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 5220

              #21
              Originally posted by togor
              Comrade, as you know, his denouncements are typically pri-forma, often read passages, and lack the free-wheeling energy he brings to his extemporaneous bashing of the press, the other political party, or anyone who crosses his path. He presents them with the enthusiam expected of terms-of-use boilerplate that has to be gotten out of the way before we can get back to the fun here at the rally. So taking the responsibility of his office seriously in this regard would be a start but it won't happen because of the implied admission that entails. Just the way Ivan likes it too. The more divided America is, the better for Putin the logic says.
              Notice that I asked what exactly Trump should do, that he hasn't already done, & got in response his standard anti-Russian diatribe, which deserves in the future to be known as Togor's Law (or does his sponsor Soros claim the credit?), his new conjugate partner to Godwin's Law, which he's already worked to death. Like Godwin's Law, invoking Togor's Law is a quick & easy way out of an argument that can't be won by facts & logic.

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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #22
                Actually that law already exists, "reductio ad Stalinum".

                Togor is speaking of a country of origin, and motivational ends of the argument...not its content. Totally different.

                However, I bet more than a few here are familiar with Stalin Apologetics, and puppets therein.
                Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 10-28-2018, 08:54.
                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #23
                  Comrade CH, to an American who feels this stuff when it happens to his country, the answer is obvious: Trump should dial down the exaggerated rhetoric and challenge his allies and enemies in the media to do the same. No one is saying he has to change his policies. Just cool it with the heated language.

                  To a Russian troll such as yourself of course it is not obvious because you want Trump to do the opposite. More proof of who and what you are.

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                  • clintonhater
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 5220

                    #24
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Comrade CH, to an American who feels this stuff when it happens to his country, the answer is obvious: Trump should dial down the exaggerated rhetoric and challenge his allies and enemies in the media to do the same. No one is saying he has to change his policies.
                    No one is saying he has to change his policies? But that's exactly what the Party of Treason demands! When they & their partners in the media sanctimoniously call for "bringing the country together," what they really mean is "conservatives must surrender their goals." Or for a choice example of what the Party of Treason means when they mewl about "bringing the country together," just remember the Kavanaugh hearing!

                    If the foreign invasion was brought to a halt, that is, if laws already on the books were rigorously enforced, wouldn't that go a long way toward "bringing the country together"?

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #25
                      Forget it, CH. These guys don't play by the rules of logic.

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                      • S.A. Boggs
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 8568

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                        Forget it, CH. These guys don't play by the rules of logic.
                        Logic is learned reason, politics is force.
                        Sam

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #27
                          Originally posted by clintonhater
                          No one is saying he has to change his policies? But that's exactly what the Party of Treason demands! When they & their partners in the media sanctimoniously call for "bringing the country together," what they really mean is "conservatives must surrender their goals." Or for a choice example of what the Party of Treason means when they mewl about "bringing the country together," just remember the Kavanaugh hearing!

                          If the foreign invasion was brought to a halt, that is, if laws already on the books were rigorously enforced, wouldn't that go a long way toward "bringing the country together"?
                          "Party of Treason"
                          "Foreign Invasion"

                          Of course you'll stick with the script and inflammatory terms and dismiss any movement towards reduced tensions as an act of surrender, Comrade. That is of course why you are here. One cannot be simultaneously for reducing and increasing tensions. It is clear which way you are payed to push things, Comrade.

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8568

                            #28
                            Originally posted by togor
                            "Party of Treason"
                            "Foreign Invasion"

                            Of course you'll stick with the script and inflammatory terms and dismiss any movement towards reduced tensions as an act of surrender, Comrade. That is of course why you are here. One cannot be simultaneously for reducing and increasing tensions. It is clear which way you are payed to push things, Comrade.
                            You surprise me Tovarich Togor, Comrade is a sign of respect, a friend or a person that one literally depends one's life on. Comrade is a good thing to be called, thanks for sharing.
                            Sam

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #29
                              Watch CH's technique. More polished than 1903fan, and he has been with the forum a year longer. But there are a few subjects that he will routinely move topics towards to spice things up and watch his selective use of inflammatory phrases (remember Meghan Markle?). And he is very protective of the Motherland. Up to people if they want to be pushed in the direction that CH and his handlers want them to go. I'm just providing information.

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                              • Vern Humphrey
                                Administrator - OFC
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 15875

                                #30
                                Good Lord -- he's having a conversation with himself, describing his own style!

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