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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    Sessions is gone!

    Can you remember anything Sessions did as Attorney General that was good for the country or for Democracy? Trump hired him for the wrong reason. He thought he was rewarding a huge supporter, A guy that would do whatever is morally right regardless of the political consequences, Instead, Trump got a coward that would run and hide rather than do the best thing for the country.

    What is needed in the Attorney General position is somebody that will enforce the laws. Not somebody that wants to use the job for personal political gain, and not somebody that runs and hides when the going gets tough.

    Hopefully we will get somebody that wants to enforce the laws on the books, regardless of the political fall out.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Personally I'd like to see an AG who stands up for keeping the DOJ free of the corruptive effects of political influence as a very high priority. I want an AG who doesn't see themselves as personally beholden to the President who appointed them, but loyal instead to the office and the institution, and indeed, the Constitution of the United States of America.

    Also: was Sessions fired for specific cause or asked to resign because he no longer served at the pleasure of the White House?
    Last edited by togor; 11-07-2018, 03:11.

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    • JB White
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 13371

      #3
      Whatever reason is fit to print is what we will be told. The real reasons may never be known.
      2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


      **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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      • Art
        Senior Member, Deceased
        • Dec 2009
        • 9256

        #4
        Originally posted by RED
        Can you remember anything Sessions did as Attorney General that was good for the country or for Democracy? Trump hired him for the wrong reason. He thought he was rewarding a huge supporter, A guy that would do whatever is morally right regardless of the political consequences, Instead, Trump got a coward that would run and hide rather than do the best thing for the country.

        What is needed in the Attorney General position is somebody that will enforce the laws. Not somebody that wants to use the job for personal political gain, and not somebody that runs and hides when the going gets tough.

        Hopefully we will get somebody that wants to enforce the laws on the books, regardless of the political fall out.
        He implemented a lot of the Presidents immigration agenda. He instituted a policy of the enthusiastic prosecuting of offenders for criminal violations of Immigration laws. Something that had been done only sporadically before him and then only in major cases. For the first time people were actually prosecuted for illegal entry. In 26 years of working for the old INS I never, and I mean never saw anyone prosecuted for illegal entry either under the misdemeanor or felony provisions. He also hired a lot more Immigration Judges to expedite deportation and adjustment proceedings. On Immigration he did everything he could without a wall and within the limits put on him by the courts.

        His unpardonable sin was recusing himself from the Russia investigation and giving Muller a free hand. Trump intends to fix that problem really quickly with his new guy who will sit on Muller while also continue Sessions agenda on I&N violations. With the Senate the way it is and under the current rules anyone Trump nominates is going to be confirmed and confirmed quickly.

        There is currently a democrat in his old Senate seat in Alabama (thank you Roy Moore.) If he runs against him in 2020 he'll win in a blowout since he's still one of the most popular men in Alabama.....or he may just retire.
        Last edited by Art; 11-07-2018, 04:45.

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        • RED
          Very Senior Member - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11689

          #5
          Art nails it!

          Thank you... Yes, you are correct as always. Yes, he did promote the prosecution of criminal immigration laws. Something that other AG's had avoided.

          You are right again on his recusing himself from the Mueller investigation but therein lies the problem. From the gitgo, the mueller investigation has been illegitimate, and illegal. Special prosecutors are, by law, supposed to investigate crimes. There is no crime listed for Mueller to investigate. He is tasked to find any crime, committed by anybody, anywhere in the world, in the last 40 years. He has no limit, no budget limitations, and no time frame. He can be investigating crimes committed by Barron Trump in kindergarten for the next 100 years and still be within the confines his BFF (the deputy Attorney General Rosenstein) has proscribed...
          Last edited by RED; 11-07-2018, 06:12.

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          • bruce
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3759

            #6
            Add a prosecutor to the assignment given to Muller. Put him to investigating over due parking violators. Have the prosecutor added investigate the issues that have not been examined connected with the squatter, his administration and of course the supposed sect. of state... who once thought she'd be the first female president of the USA ... only to find that she is the first woman ever to loose as a candidate for president of the USA. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
            " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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            • sid
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3198

              #7
              Sessions also refused to do anything involving a special investigation of the Clintons and all of the crap they were involved with.

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10583

                #8
                Sessions obviously did more in office than we realized but Trump did and should have expected more. Jeff had plenty of chances to improve has image with Trump but instead stayed as quiet as possible. If he had more outspoken about what he was doing and trying to do (remember for every decent action there is an obama appointed judge to block him) perhaps he could have saved his position. He and Trump should have had more closed meetings and not air out their dirty laundry in public. Like my wife said though, now he can retire with a pension of an AG + perhaps have lifelong security along with the retirement from being a senator from Alabama for so many years.

                If he decides to not retire he knows he is always welcomed back in Alabama which has some nasty house cleaning to do now. Sessions is a good person, just not a ball of fire and to serve under Trump you would need to be.

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                • dryheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10587

                  #9
                  He instituted a policy of the enthusiastic prosecuting of offenders for criminal violations of Immigration laws. -

                  That's what I liked about him. He's the one who said, If parents don't like being seperated from children maybe they shouldn't cross the border illegally(sic).
                  If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Read Clarence Thomas's concurring opinion from this October 2016 case regarding the applicability of the Appointment's Clause to the manner in which Trump picked a replacement for Sessions. Starts on page 25.



                    Simplest argument is that Trump put in a hack loyalist to do some dirty work if he can before getting blown up by the courts, at which point he'll bitch about that too. Somehow it's always my job to bring this stuff up.

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