Ocasio-Cortez Compares Migrant Caravan To Jews Fleeing the Holocaust

[dryheat]

Ya gotta talk the talk. Like AO and yer six. Try saying saying, "this thread is highly charged", "all you are doing is adding static to the conversation", "you are resistant to change".

[Allen]

It is what it is. I have no use for the woman or her party. That being said, the comparison of these migrants and Jews fleeing the Holocaust is correct. The Jews were fleeing legalized criminal activity that would later be condemned at the Nuremberg Trials. These migrants are fleeing actual criminal activity that is roundly condemned by one and all. The Jews were not always welcomed by other nations. There were severe restrictions on their entry to many of the continental nations, England and the United States. A google of the S.S. St. Louis would yield useful insight into the problems faced by Jews seeking to flee from the Nazi's. Today there are severe restrictions on the entry of these migrants seeking to flee what they say are extreme criminal conditions, etc. in their countries of origin. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

If things are so bad in their countries then they would have been more than happy to accept the jobs and asylum offered by Mexico. Many of these countries ARE s**thole countries and always will be--it didn't happen overnight so if you care at all for your children why bring them into a world like this? Part of the problem IS the overpopulation mostly due to lack of education and responsibility. Just let someone else take care of them huh?

Running the Jews out of Hitler's Germany was one thing. Chasing them down into the countries they entered was another. Capturing and killing them in other countries was quite another thing as well.

Things have not always been great here in America either. We've had wars, depressions , dust bowls, diseases and other set backs. We didn't flood the shores of some other county with our problems, we fixed them ourselves.

[Roadkingtrax]

Allen, we needed the financial help of the Dutch, and military support of the French in our war against British colonialism. It hasn't really stopped.

[JB White]

Allen, we needed the financial help of the Dutch, and military support of the French in our war against British colonialism. It hasn't really stopped.

How many American colonials flooded France and the Netherlands during that time?

[Allen]

Refugees:

"Remember we throw rock at tank in Czechoslovakia?"




I wonder what would happen if 75,000 Chicagoans marched across the Ambassador Bridge asking for asylum in Canada? What about marching through San Diego asking Mexico to let us in?
We don't like it here anymore. Feed us. Pay us. Educate our kids. Make a doctors appointment for me then wash my car....

And if comparing with Mexico's invasion of the U.S. you could say this would be on top of the 30 Million +++ illegals living in Canada plus the many many millions that Canada allowed to become citizens. I don't think anyone would be entering Mexico from the U.S. to stay unless they were running from the law.

[togor]

JB some of us actually think about the scenario of Chicagoans moving north en masse and don't regard it as a good thing. Please, stay where you are! Or...use barges on the lake that allow you to go straight to the UP on your path to Canada. The point being....everyone is unwanted somewhere else.

[JB White]

The point being....everyone is unwanted somewhere else.

Nailed it!

[Allen]

Nailed it!

And it's 1000 times worse when the unwanted bring their diseases, crimes, expect the new country to adapt for them, set up housekeeping and begin multiplying, refuse to learn the accepted language and religions and are NOT self supporting. Except for the democrats wanting those extra votes at the sake of sabotaging our country what is there to like ????

[dryheat]

The editorial this morning railing against how all of this is Trumps fault mentioned that we aren't being swamped with asylum seekers. There were 1.2 MILLION less petitions this year than in 2017. 1.2 Million less. A useless number except to point out that there are unknown(from this article)numbers of millions applying for entrance into the country. Every year.

[clintonhater]

And it's 1000 times worse when the unwanted bring their diseases, crimes, expect the new country to adapt for them, set up housekeeping and begin multiplying...

Not begin--continue, without restraint. The perpetual poverty in Latin America, despite natural resources that would be the envy of Japan, S. Korea, Singapore, etc, is in large part the result of perpetual breeding. Not because birth control drugs & devices aren't available in those places, but because birth control is alien to their culture of personal irresponsibility.

[Vern Humphrey]

No, the problem in Latin America is their failure to adopt capitalism and their continual flirtation with various forms of socialism.

[bostonbound]

It is what it is. I have no use for the woman or her party. That being said, the comparison of these migrants and Jews fleeing the Holocaust is correct. The Jews were fleeing legalized criminal activity that would later be condemned at the Nuremberg Trials. These migrants are fleeing actual criminal activity that is roundly condemned by one and all. The Jews were not always welcomed by other nations. There were severe restrictions on their entry to many of the continental nations, England and the United States. A google of the S.S. St. Louis would yield useful insight into the problems faced by Jews seeking to flee from the Nazi's. Today there are severe restrictions on the entry of these migrants seeking to flee what they say are extreme criminal conditions, etc. in their countries of origin. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

Your comparison would only be correct if the Jews on the SS St. Louis had turned down offers of asylum from Great Britain or another country before insisting on going to the US.

[bruce]

Re: S.S. St. Louis. Point was that despite the extreme circumstances from which they were fleeing those hapless Jews on that long forgotten boat were no more welcome than are the migrants moving toward our southern border. That is the point made. Sincerely. bruce.

[bostonbound]

Re: S.S. St. Louis. Point was that despite the extreme circumstances from which they were fleeing those hapless Jews on that long forgotten boat were no more welcome than are the migrants moving toward our southern border. That is the point made. Sincerely. bruce.

So a person being refused service at a restaurant and going hungry is morally equivalent to Stalin's genocide by hunger in the Ukraine? Same sort of analogy as yours.

[togor]

So a person being refused service at a restaurant and going hungry is morally equivalent to Stalin's genocide by hunger in the Ukraine? Same sort of analogy as yours.

I have my disagreements with Bruce, but if he is arguing from Matthew 25:31-46, then he is on solid ground, scripturally-speaking. The Lord sees what is in people's hearts, be that in the diner or on the collective farm. You can make of that what you will.