Bump stock ban

[Jiminvirginia]

Just saw this. Bump stock ban on the way. You will have 90 days to turn them in or destroy them.
Some here may disagree but I am in favor of this.

[JB White]

You will have 90 days to turn them in or destroy them.

That I do NOT agree with! There aren't all that many out there. They can buy them off the market at fair market value.

[Jiminvirginia]

Thats a good point. Not sure what fair market value is though.

[Allen]

I'm not a fan of the bump stocks. I think they are useless for the most part and wish they had never been invented or produced however I am against any form of gun control because if you give the liberals an inch they will try to take a foot. They will declare this as a win and push for every thing imaginable now.

I believe, if the ban passes, since it was the BATF that allowed them in the first place and they were legal when purchased that they, the government, our tax dollars, should offer to buy them back or permit the owners to register them free of charge.

[dogtag]

Bump stocks merely provide the anti gunners with ammunition.
The things should have been banned the minute they came out.

[Vern Humphrey]

Once you start banning, you will never stop. And what will you have accomplished? Nothing!

[Jiminvirginia]

Bump stocks merely provide the anti gunners with ammunition.
The things should have been banned the minute they came out.

It baffles me how they were ever legal.

[Vern Humphrey]

It baffles me how they were ever legal.

Why should they not be legal? Look what pressure cookers did at the Boston Marathon. Should they be illegal, too?

[dogtag]

Why should they not be legal? Look what pressure cookers did at the Boston Marathon. Should they be illegal, too?

The gun banners don't use pressure cookers to campaign against guns.
Bump stocks make semi autos into full auto (basically) - anti gunners campaign on that.

You can't see the difference Vern ? Are you kidding ?

[Vern Humphrey]

The gun banners don't use pressure cookers to campaign against guns.
Bump stocks make semi autos into full auto (basically) - anti gunners campaign on that.

You can't see the difference Vern ? Are you kidding ?

I can see that you're willing to throw someone under the bus -- and what will it get you? Only more demands for more bans.

[togor]

I can see that you're willing to throw someone under the bus -- and what will it get you? Only more demands for more bans.

Demands for more bans would exist whether this ban came into being or not. I've never heard anyone say "just give us the bump stock ban and then we'll be quiet". Someone can therefore be for getting rid of bump stocks because they genuinely believe it is the right thing to do. It doesn't make them a sell-out or enabler of more bans.

[JB White]

The demands for more bans will come and we all know that. Add bump stocks to their list of demands and it's easier for them to pass a ban on more than just the stocks...in one fell swoop.

[Vern Humphrey]

That is why there is a good reason for us to oppose a ban on bump stocks. Remember, if you favor a ban on an object, you are admitting it is the object that causes the crime -- exactly what the antis say.

[togor]

That is why there is a good reason for us to oppose a ban on bump stocks. Remember, if you favor a ban on an object, you are admitting it is the object that causes the crime -- exactly what the antis say.

Not correct. The person commits the crime, the object does the damage. The angriest person armed with nothing but their fists is intrinsically less dangerous than that same person with a knife, or a mag-fed autoloading carbine with a satchel full of mags, or a LMG in an enfilading position overlooking a crowded and confined compound. Objects are banned on the basis of their potential for doing damage. At some point lines are crossed and apparently bump stocks are over some people's lines.

[p246]

Not correct. The person commits the crime, the object does the damage. The angriest person armed with nothing but their fists is intrinsically less dangerous than that same person with a knife, or a mag-fed autoloading carbine with a satchel full of mags, or a LMG in an enfilading position overlooking a crowded and confined compound. Objects are banned on the basis of their potential for doing damage. At some point lines are crossed and apparently bump stocks are over some people's lines.

Or armed with a vehicle, don’t forget that Tool.