So now they have nailed Trump.

[RED]

So now they have Trump in a “impeachment trap.”

Instead of investigating Russian collusion, Mueller has been searching for a crime that would trump, Trump’s election. Any crime, by anybody for the past 30 years will do. Mueller is torturing, black mailing, extorting, and punishing good people and their families to force them into lying about Trump.

“If you don’t lie and testify against Trump, your wife and children will spend the rest of their lives in prison.”

And that is the method he has used to get people to lie about Trump.

The Laffer here is that if you don’t lie under oath to get Trump, and invalidate the 2016 election, you and your family will go to jail. If you do lie under oath, as ordered, we will not prosecute your family but you will spend life in Club Fed. What would you do?

Now Mueller and his team has raided a Trump supporter in Chicago, (who happens to be a Democrat).

So far Mueller has not found one single piece of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. Not one single piece of evidence that the Russians changed a single vote, not even one.

But, this investigation is not about a crime. It is not about collusion, it is about invalidating all future American elections.

Mueller is a crooked political hack that has a record of prosecutorial abuse. Three of the four convictions he garnered in the Enron scandal were thrown out. The reason… prosecutorial abuse.

Meanwhile, a huge number of Democrat ctiminals and felons are above being investigated.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...129-story.html

[dogtag]

I remember saying all he needs is a black leather coat - Gestapo.

[Roadkingtrax]

If Trump is innocent he'll walk. If he's not...well, he asked for it.

[RED]

If Trump is innocent he'll walk. If he's not...well, he asked for it.

Toe sucker BS... Guilt or innocence is not relevant here. Trump is always guilty until proven innocent. Can you prove you have never broken a law??? That is what Trump is faced with. He hires a tax professional to do his taxes, just like I have done for years. The problem is if the CPA or tax lawyers make a mistake, Trump is a criminal tax cheat.. If you have a fairly ordinary tax return and take it to H&R Block and 9 other tax preparers, you will likely get 10 different outcomes. So, do you go to jail because the one you choose was wrong????

I can't believe I am stupid enough to even give a toe sucking tax cheat like you an answer.

[Roadkingtrax]

Sounds like you think he's guilty Red? Tsk, tsk...Talk about jumping the gun. Give the man time to explain it all.

[lyman]

this is all a repeat of the stuff that Clinton went thru back in the 90's,,

just the players wear a different letter, mostly, behind their names,


fact is, money will be spend, conclusions drawn, some will get rich, some will loose all,

and all those folks I just mentioned will be the minnows,

the sharks will keep on keeping on

[togor]

So far Mueller has not found one single piece of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. Not one single piece of evidence that the Russians changed a single vote, not even one.

What is the basis of this claim? It is stated as unassailable fact but not substantiated.

[free1954]

toe sucker? does it have some kind of political significance, or is it just a derogatory term?

[togor]

Also, Red, not too many upbeat ways to spin the news that Manafort and his lawyers were double-dealing on Mueller, feeding dope to Trump and Rudy G. while feigning cooperation. Obstruction of justice is looking like a gimme at this point. And not even a Trump Tower in Moscow to show for it.

[dryheat]

Rudy,Mueller,Cohen, Manafort and a host of lessor stars. It sounds like a Soap Opera(back when daytime t.v. was sponsored by detergent cos.). I didn't watch them then and I don't watch them now. Of course, I thought the Black killers trial was kind of a soap opera and justice did finally, sloppily prevail.

[Col. Colt]

togor, if you're not a Fed Disinformation Agent, on the Govt. payroll trolling right leaning websites you are a little hard to figure out - a leftist that just likes guns?? Guns in citizen hands are for defending Freedom from Tyrants - not something lockstep statists like you should even approve of.....

The "Russian Collusion Story" is a CONFIRMED HOAX bought and paid for with $10 Million Dollars of Hillary Clinton/DNC Money, to sink Trump as our great FBI Lovebird Team told us it was "An Insurance Policy". Or does partisan Democrat ownership of the FBI and CIA and using it to rig elections meet with your approval, as long as they are on the side of "your team"?

Mueller is a proven Democratic operative - without a single Republican on "his team". They wrecked Ted Stevens and a number of other good people by making up evidence before - what's new? Very impartial and fair - Right? . And Anyone can be caught in a "Perjury Trap" - due to one thing you didn't remember - or by a twisted interpretation of what you did say. Mueller has found NOTHING that implicates Trump - unless he can pressure some lesser person to lie to save his own skin, he won't. This basically is the Inquisition and the French Revolution all rolled together by the same kind of sick, power hungry people - in the cause of Globalism and Big Government not liking being pushed back by a man who loves his country and the working man.

Any need to go any further? And how it it collusion with the Russian Government if a member of Trump's election team finds out that Julian Assage has Hillary's e-mails at his fingertips (regardless of the original hacked source) and then, for whatever reason and without even a nod from Trump himself, Wikileaks simply puts out the lying, cheating, evil stuff Hillary is doing to Bernie - an act entirely in character for Wikileaks, and plans to do to the rest of us, etc. So the truth got out about how Democrats always lie and cheat - even each other! But we all knew that. And if it had not gotten out, the election would have ended exactly the same way.

How is that "Russian Collusion"? Is there anything wrong with the Truth getting out about "Bengazi Hillary" and her actions? I don't see a crime - as long as what's published is TRUE and HERS - her with no cyber-security and her server in her home closet, discussing State Secrets - with Obama! And the DNC said their private servers were hacked - but won't let the FBI look at them to trace the hacking. Why? Because they are as dirty as she is.....

A lot of good people are going to jail while the real evil doers up high have gotten a pass. Bill, Hillary, Comey Brennan and Obama all should be in Levenworth for influence peddling, dereliction of duty - a long list of crimes against the people of the United States - NOW look at their wealth "Bloom" - their promised but retroactive reward from the Global rulers they serve - for selling out their offices and their Nation's future. Combined, their personal body counts are in the dozens - if not the hundreds - starting with the dead from Fast and Furious and leading to dead heros at Bengazi and beyond. Go ahead and gloat - knowing in your heart it's all a manufactured lie by evil people you seem to side with. "The end justifies the means, Right? CC

[S.A. Boggs]

togor, if you're not a Fed Disinformation Agent, on the Govt. payroll trolling right leaning websites you are a little hard to figure out - a leftist that just likes guns?? Guns in citizen hands are for defending Freedom from Tyrants - not something lockstep statists like you should even approve of.....

The "Russian Collusion Story" is a CONFIRMED HOAX bought and paid for with $10 Million Dollars of Hillary Clinton/DNC Money, to sink Trump as our great FBI Lovebird Team told us it was "An Insurance Policy". Or does partisan Democrat ownership of the FBI and CIA and using it to rig elections meet with your approval, as long as they are on the side of "your team"?

Mueller is a proven Democratic operative - without a single Republican on "his team". They wrecked Ted Stevens and a number of other good people by making up evidence before - what's new? Very impartial and fair - Right? . And Anyone can be caught in a "Perjury Trap" - due to one thing you didn't remember - or by a twisted interpretation of what you did say. Mueller has found NOTHING that implicates Trump - unless he can pressure some lesser person to lie to save his own skin, he won't. This basically is the Inquisition and the French Revolution all rolled together by the same kind of sick, power hungry people - in the cause of Globalism and Big Government not liking being pushed back by a man who loves his country and the working man.

Any need to go any further? And how it it collusion with the Russian Government if a member of Trump's election team finds out that Julian Assage has Hillary's e-mails at his fingertips (regardless of the original hacked source) and then, for whatever reason and without even a nod from Trump himself, Wikileaks simply puts out the lying, cheating, evil stuff Hillary is doing to Bernie - an act entirely in character for Wikileaks, and plans to do to the rest of us, etc. So the truth got out about how Democrats always lie and cheat - even each other! But we all knew that. And if it had not gotten out, the election would have ended exactly the same way.

How is that "Russian Collusion"? Is there anything wrong with the Truth getting out about "Bengazi Hillary" and her actions? I don't see a crime - as long as what's published is TRUE and HERS - her with no cyber-security and her server in her home closet, discussing State Secrets - with Obama! And the DNC said their private servers were hacked - but won't let the FBI look at them to trace the hacking. Why? Because they are as dirty as she is.....

A lot of good people are going to jail while the real evil doers up high have gotten a pass. Bill, Hillary, Comey Brennan and Obama all should be in Levenworth for influence peddling, dereliction of duty - a long list of crimes against the people of the United States - NOW look at their wealth "Bloom" - their promised but retroactive reward from the Global rulers they serve - for selling out their offices and their Nation's future. Combined, their personal body counts are in the dozens - if not the hundreds - starting with the dead from Fast and Furious and leading to dead heros at Bengazi and beyond. Go ahead and gloat - knowing in your heart it's all a manufactured lie by evil people you seem to side with. "The end justifies the means, Right? CC

Col. you are right on this, "our" ones are the those in collusion with the Axis of Evil. NSDWP are willing to go to any length's to destroy the U.S. to stop Trump from having our nation get back up on Uncle Sam's feet. Another political party 70 years ago tried the same thing with America and came to ruin, the same will happen to NSDWP of today.
Sam

[togor]

Saying something is proven is hardly the same as presenting the proof. There are lots of big claims out there in the media and in stupid blogs scattered on the web, but only Mueller knows what evidence sits in his files. What we do have is a fistful of guilty pleas, and the one time that a case went to a jury on one of the principals, they came back with guilty verdicts and hung juries, but no acquittals. That suggests that the people working these cases do in fact have evidence that can even convince a #MAGA hat in the jury box. Once upon a time Red swore that it could never come to this, because there was no grist for the mill. Well here we are two years later and the net draws tighter. How anyone could credibly think this cast: Trump, Manafort, Pruitt, Zinke, DeVos, Stone, Cohen, Giuiliani, Jr., Jared, Ivanka, Corsi, Flynn, Papadapoulos (and others) could drain the swamp is completely beyond me. Trump literally is a moveable swamp all by himself.

[Allen]

+1 Col. Colt

Truer words have never been spoken.

[S.A. Boggs]

Saying something is proven is hardly the same as presenting the proof. There are lots of big claims out there in the media and in stupid blogs scattered on the web, but only Mueller knows what evidence sits in his files. What we do have is a fistful of guilty pleas, and the one time that a case went to a jury on one of the principals, they came back with guilty verdicts and hung juries, but no acquittals. That suggests that the people working these cases do in fact have evidence that can even convince a #MAGA hat in the jury box. Once upon a time Red swore that it could never come to this, because there was no grist for the mill. Well here we are two years later and the net draws tighter. How anyone could credibly think this cast: Trump, Manafort, Pruitt, Zinke, DeVos, Stone, Cohen, Giuiliani, Jr., Jared, Ivanka, Corsi, Flynn, Papadapoulos (and others) could drain the swamp is completely beyond me. Trump literally is a moveable swamp all by himself.

Togor, remember what happened to the man who invented the guillotine?
Sam