Global Warming causes Snow ...

[togor]

because Man in his arrogance thinks tiny changes in recorded weather for the past couple hundred years will destroy a world that has been here millions,

Why misstate the situation? To justify no other action than to put on blinders? The world will endure. Whether human civilization, going on 10B souls and some controlling nuclear weapons, will survive is the relevant question. Our food production is adapted to this climate, not that of 3 million years ago. And is it right to condemn countless species to extinction because they lack our adaptive skills? Meanwhile we talk tariffs and walls because people specifically don't want to adapt. I call BS on all of that.

[lyman]

no mistake,

we, as in Man, can screw up a rock,

but we also have only been recording weather (accurately) for a very short period of time (compared to the time we have have be able to read and write)

pardon me while I remain skeptical of what algore wants us to believe,
and did you not read the entire post?

[S.A. Boggs]

Why misstate the situation? To justify no other action than to put on blinders? The world will endure. Whether human civilization, going on 10B souls and some controlling nuclear weapons, will survive is the relevant question. Our food production is adapted to this climate, not that of 3 million years ago. And is it right to condemn countless species to extinction because they lack our adaptive skills? Meanwhile we talk tariffs and walls because people specifically don't want to adapt. I call BS on all of that.

"BUT WHAT DOES IT MATTER???!!!"
Sam

[togor]

no mistake,

we, as in Man, can screw up a rock,

but we also have only been recording weather (accurately) for a very short period of time (compared to the time we have have be able to read and write)

pardon me while I remain skeptical of what algore wants us to believe,
and did you not read the entire post?

Atmospheric CO2 has gone from a baseline of 250ppm to over 400ppm by digging or pumping carbon out of the ground and transferring it to the atmosphere. This is completely independent of volcanic activity, which can profoundly affect weather for a year or two, as much by injecting ash and sulphur dioxide into the upper atmosphere as anything. Our civilization has shown it can ride out periodic large eruptions. Doubling atmospheric CO2 is new territory for civilized man. Conservatism would seem to speak to not running this giant experiment on our climate.

[lyman]

when was that baseline measured?

from 1999?
1950?

1900?

were we capable of measuring ppm then?
how about 100yrs before?

can we tell what the PPM was in 1250?

if so, what is the source?
USA?
North America?
Europe?
India>
China?


and explain how you can offset Carbon with Carbon Credits?

[High Plaines Doug r]

Old article; nothing has changed:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/08/wheres_the_press_after_a_century_of_bad_climate_predictions.html

[S.A. Boggs]

Atmospheric CO2 has gone from a baseline of 250ppm to over 400ppm by digging or pumping carbon out of the ground and transferring it to the atmosphere. This is completely independent of volcanic activity, which can profoundly affect weather for a year or two, as much by injecting ash and sulphur dioxide into the upper atmosphere as anything. Our civilization has shown it can ride out periodic large eruptions. Doubling atmospheric CO2 is new territory for civilized man. Conservatism would seem to speak to not running this giant experiment on our climate.

Togor, not being snide in my remarks, do you worry a great deal? Plants take in CO2 as food and expel the O2 for us to breath. The THC levels in cannabis has > and continues to do so. In green houses CO2 is released for the plants to convert, so what is the issue? This "carbon" credits is just another tax on society for politicians to buy votes with by "giving" us "free" things with their social experimentation for gosh sakes!
Too many people, including some here, are developing a syndrome of worrying about life instead of living life. For those who are Believers God provides for us as HE provides for the lowliest sparrow.
If you are truly interested in the atmosphere look around as to what you can do to help. Is your car in good repair to reduce emissions, do you recycle everything that you can? Do you buy "convenience" foods or cook from scratch? The list goes on and on of what I can do now, rather then what government will do to me in their quest for cleaning up the atmosphere. I have had a simple thing for the last 50 years, born of economic necessity. USE IT UP, WEAR IT OUT, DO WITH IT OR DO WITHOUT! MY wife is a crafter, "old" clothes get cut up into quilt fabric for her many works of useable art that she makes. What she can't use goes into our wood burner, only cotton fabric, to warm us. The ashes go back to the ground to replenish what is taken out.
Sam

[togor]

when was that baseline measured?

from 1999?
1950?

1900?

were we capable of measuring ppm then?
how about 100yrs before?

can we tell what the PPM was in 1250?

if so, what is the source?
USA?
North America?
Europe?
India>
China?


and explain how you can offset Carbon with Carbon Credits?

Short answer is yes, from trapped air in glacial ice cores. CO2 levels vary seasonally, related to the asymmetry in N/S hemispheric land masses. Obviously reducing emissions is a cooperative undertaking on a global scale, because CO2 will disperse globally regardless of the point of emission. Fear of global cooperation run by George Soros and Blue Helmets does animate some in the tinfoil hat crowd.

Plenty of tech info online. This link can get you started.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Carbon credits are an idea to introduce a cost of emissions into economic activity. It's an indirect mechanism.

One game that deniers sometimes play (not saying it is happening here but possible that it is) is one that can be called "99 Questions". It's a simple game, and can be used with any kind of denial. It goes like this: if I can ask 99 questions about a thing and one of them comes back with an unsatisfactory answer, then that is proof that the thing that I deny is in fact not happening. Therefore, I win the game. There are a lot of games of 99 Questions being played out there in the world right now.

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Old article; nothing has changed:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...edictions.html

Past performance doesn't guarantee future results. The writer goes back to 1895 for opinions. Well lots of things in science have changed since 1895. Physics, aviation, medicine. Hurricane forecasts are immeasurably better now than in 1895. It's an opinion piece arguing from a logical fallacy that the future must always be like the past.

[dryheat]

Thankfully, in this country some strides have been made to curtail the bad stuff in the air. I can't imagine what it would be like to drive around here if we still had the oil dripping, smoke belching cars that were on the road in 1960. Once in a while I get behind some old car or truck with the "historic vehicle" plates and it all comes back. And that's just one old clunker.