The Never ending military training of foreign troops ...

[dogtag]

Just how much training to these foreign troops need ?
When the hell are they going to be trained sufficiently
so that they can begin training their own troops ?
Or is it that they're too bloody stupid and the instructions
go in one ear and out the other ? It's been going on for
years it seems. Every time there's a conflict in a third
world country, the troops of that country have to be
taught which end of the rifle the bullet comes out of.
So now in Syria with countless numbers of Syrian and
Kurdish troops fighting ISIS, only the 2000 American
contingent can prevent an ISIS resurgence ? Give me a break.
If and when we leave Syria I wonder if those left will be able
to find the latrine without American help.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-rebuild.html

[RETREAD123456]

YOU raise a pertinent point. In 1968. we went from boot camp in March to RVN in late October. That includes travel time and leave. These allies have been trained for years! Once knew a WW II vet who was drafted in Jan 45 and was in Europe by VE Day

[togor]

The Kurds seem to take to training pretty well and they're not happy with our departure. I hope they don't get crushed by the powers that aren't pulling out.

[Roadkingtrax]

The Kurds seem to take to training pretty well and they're not happy with our departure. I hope they don't get crushed by the powers that aren't pulling out.

Turkey doesn't care for them.

[Allen]

Just how much training to these foreign troops need ?
When the hell are they going to be trained sufficiently
so that they can begin training their own troops ?
Or is it that they're too bloody stupid and the instructions
go in one ear and out the other ? It's been going on for
years it seems. Every time there's a conflict in a third
world country, the troops of that country have to be
taught which end of the rifle the bullet comes out of.

I think they see the U.S. involvement, training and supplying of expensive technical weapons as welfare and will always be dependent upon us rather than be self supportive.

[barretcreek]

Turkey doesn't care for them.

Look at Erdogan and what he is about and you will understand why none of his neighbors like the Turks. Including Arabs.

[Sandpebble]

Training foriegn troops.... well for a start when I attended a Navy tech school at Great Lakes in the very early 70s there were a large number of Iranian students being trained there as well....

what did that get us? .... about the same that being buddies with Saudi Arabia did I reckon.

The nut is... help build a foriegn army by selling weapons.... arms sales to overseas "friends " creates jobs here... and profit for some stock investors ....

I've never liked the idea of us being anywhere but here.... so I'll back Trump on the troop removal .... even though in this case I believe it's because his "Pal Putin" wants him to

[clintonhater]

Look at Erdogan and what he is about and you will understand why none of his neighbors like the Turks. Including Arabs.

What he's about is turning Turkey from the severely secular republic created by Ataturk, who tried to break most links to bad old Islamic customs like headscarves for women, into a true Islamic State. It was as a secular state that Turkey was accepted by NATO, so why are they still a member of that worthless org, esp. when the Soviet threat is long gone? Anybody remember when Turkey refused use of its bases during the invasion of Iraq? Some "ally." The Kurds are BY FAR the best friends we have in the area, yet we abandon them to the aggression of Erdogan?

[togor]

A Christmas miracle as togor and CH find themselves in agreement.

[Vern Humphrey]

YOU raise a pertinent point. In 1968. we went from boot camp in March to RVN in late October. That includes travel time and leave. These allies have been trained for years! Once knew a WW II vet who was drafted in Jan 45 and was in Europe by VE Day

But boot camp is minimal training. REAL training is done in the unit, where troops train under their OWN officers and NCOs and learn to cooperate with their squad and platoon members. And officer and senior NCO training is a whole 'nother ball game.

[blackhawknj]

Those of us who have served in Uncle Sam's Army know how little training is conducted in units. Probably 90 % is conducted in MOS schools-and they don't do a good job.
Being an "adviser", a "trainer" of foreign troops is a ticket-punch.

[Vern Humphrey]

Those of us who have served in Uncle Sam's Army know how little training is conducted in units. Probably 90 % is conducted in MOS schools-and they don't do a good job.
Being an "adviser", a "trainer" of foreign troops is a ticket-punch.

I strongly disagree -- read E.B. Sledge's "With the Old Breed on Pelieu and Okinawa." It clearly shows the value of training in the unit. Personally, I always conducted training in my units -- with field problems where the troops rehearsed combat operations under their own officers and NCOs. For example, we would go out and cross a river tactically, discuss the experience and identify our shortcomings, then re-cross the same river again. That is something that can't happen in Initial Entry Training -- you don't have the organization or a high enough leader-to-led ratio.

[Mark in Ottawa]

I suspect that the locals realize that if they can get the American "trainers" to fight and die on their behalf then they don't have to take the risk themselves.

[m1ashooter]

We have been training the Afghani's far too long, its a waste of time. Trump is the first President I've seen who isn't letting mission creep set in. Bring everyone home.

[blackhawknj]

Yes, Baron von Steuben did a good job of training Washington's Army-by himself.