Black congressman compares Trump to Hitler...

[dryheat]

Pretty good editorial. I don't agree with everything Col. Colt believes in, but I won't argue with his basic morality.
It's later than you think. I remember the cartoons in the paper that showed the guy in a robe with a sign saying, "the end is near". It's always "later than you think" for Old Guys. Not so much for the under 25.

[S.A. Boggs]

Has anyone read the "New" green deal for America that the "Lady" Congresswoman from New York is proposing for our nation? If not, read it and see what she has in store for YOU.
Sam

[togor]

Nothing says "I'm bad at history but really attached to my feelings" more than arguing that opposing Trump makes someone a Nazi. For one thing, there are still real Nazis out there, digging the Fuhrer and Swastikas and hating Jews, the whole deal. According to the reporters who have asked them, they look at Trump with suspicion because of the Ivanka/Jared thing, but on the other hand love the fact that the office is no longer a bully pulpit for denouncing them. To them, Trump is a step in the right direction.

"But what about the 25 points?" What about them? Pandering to the lower classes at a time when such slogans were effective. How many of the so-called socialist ones got enacted when Hitler became absolute dictator and his word was law? Zip. Nada. Zilch. What Germans got instead was the Fuherprinzip, a rigid system of social hierarchy (very right wing), and of course the big German conglomerates like Krupp and I.G. Farben did fantastic business. The electoral appeal of Naziism (there was a stretch when elections came one after the other) was rooted in the middle class of shopkeepers and businessmen, who were promised an end to the social disruptions wrought by the Bolsheviks and Jews. The more astute reader of Third Reich history knows in fact that German private industry proved harder for the Nazi government to corral at times than was experienced by the US government.

Nonetheless, people who have come to idolize Trump look upon those that do not with consternation, especially those who may be practicing their Constitutional rights to freedom of speech and assembly, and wonder what is to be done. The remedy it seems is to call them Nazis, and in the post-fact era, who cares if the label is appropriate or not. It makes the user feel better, and that is all that matters.

[S.A. Boggs]

Nothing says "I'm bad at history but really attached to my feelings" more than arguing that opposing Trump makes someone a Nazi. For one thing, there are still real Nazis out there, digging the Fuhrer and Swastikas and hating Jews, the whole deal. According to the reporters who have asked them, they look at Trump with suspicion because of the Ivanka/Jared thing, but on the other hand love the fact that the office is no longer a bully pulpit for denouncing them. To them, Trump is a step in the right direction.

"But what about the 25 points?" What about them? Pandering to the lower classes at a time when such slogans were effective. How many of the so-called socialist ones got enacted when Hitler became absolute dictator and his word was law? Zip. Nada. Zilch. What Germans got instead was the Fuherprinzip, a rigid system of social hierarchy (very right wing), and of course the big German conglomerates like Krupp and I.G. Farben did fantastic business. The electoral appeal of Naziism (there was a stretch when elections came one after the other) was rooted in the middle class of shopkeepers and businessmen, who were promised an end to the social disruptions wrought by the Bolsheviks and Jews. The more astute reader of Third Reich history knows in fact that German private industry proved harder for the Nazi government to corral at times than was experienced by the US government.

Nonetheless, people who have come to idolize Trump look upon those that do not with consternation, especially those who may be practicing their Constitutional rights to freedom of speech and assembly, and wonder what is to be done. The remedy it seems is to call them Nazis, and in the post-fact era, who cares if the label is appropriate or not.

Nice try at deflection there Togor, and I am not astounded at your grasp of Nazism either. How does the NSDWP look to you now with the new "Green Deal" that will be proposed. Old Nancy and Chuckie will have a time with the new "Progressives" especially the one from New York.
Sam

[togor]

I haven't looked at the Green deal, but I do remember seeing some statistics that renewable energy was a better source of jobs nationally than coal mining. So if the plan is to push more renewable energy at the expense of coal, then I'm all for it. Coal mining is giving way to automation anyways and doesn't do the environment any good at all. Even discounting CO2, coal is a dirty fuel six ways from Sunday. Coal mining towns have known for decades now what the future will bring. If they haven't prepared themselves for a post-coal era, then that's their fault.

[Vern Humphrey]

Nice try at deflection there Togor, and I am not astounded at your grasp of Nazism either. How does the NSDWP look to you now with the new "Green Deal" that will be proposed. Old Nancy and Chuckie will have a time with the new "Progressives" especially the one from New York.
Sam

Arguing against Trump does not make one a Nazi, advancing Nazi ideas -- including approving of the use of violence for political reasons -- DOES make one a Nazi.

[togor]

Arguing against Trump does not make one a Nazi, advancing Nazi ideas -- including approving of the use of violence for political reasons -- DOES make one a Nazi.

Which specifically-Nazi ideas, and what acts of violence? You've wielded the label freely, but I doubt you can justify your own use even by your own definition. And be careful with your examples. "A strong military defense of the Homeland" is an idea embraced by Nazi Germany, but hardly unique to that state.

[m1ashooter]

Always remember this very important fact when congress people and senators are speaking especially members of congress. They represent the voters who voted them in. Don't blame the congress person. Blame the people who elected them in the first place if one doesn't like what they do or say. I guess the people of his district like him enough to elect him. Doesn't say much in my opinion for the people in his district.

[Vern Humphrey]

Always remember this very important fact when congress people and senators are speaking especially members of congress. They represent the voters who voted them in. Don't blame the congress person. Blame the people who elected them in the first place if one doesn't like what they do or say. I guess the people of his district like him enough to elect him. Doesn't say much in my opinion for the people in his district.

Which is fine so far as it goes -- but it ignores the leadership role of Congress. Senators and Representatives are LEADERS -- they lead their constituents as much as they serve them (and sometimes a whole lot more.) They are the fuglemen, and their voters are the recruits.

[S.A. Boggs]

Which is fine so far as it goes -- but it ignores the leadership role of Congress. Senators and Representatives are LEADERS -- they lead their constituents as much as they serve them (and sometimes a whole lot more.) They are the fuglemen, and their voters are the recruits.

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Sam