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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #16
    Originally posted by togor
    It's a half-witted question with the implicit assumption that the wall is the Gold Standard by which interest in border security and immigration reform are measured. I would argue that favoring the wall is proof that someone isn't serious about border security and immigration reform because of the inefficient diversion of funds and inverted sense of priorities that it represents. .
    I guess I don't understand the statement. how is it not efficient to provide money for a wall for border security? I thought that considering what the county spends currently each year to financially support or to prevent people currently coming into the country illegally via the open borders that a small one time cost of the wall would save the country many millions of dollars over the years. Those walls that have been constructed in certain areas along the border already have decreased the number of illegal crossovers and thus have saved US taxpayers a lot of money. I guess I'm confused, Ray

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8568

      #17
      RKT and Togor are doing exactly what has happened in therapy when the clinician degraded their illusion with reality. These two try and attack the one who asks a question so as to deny their answer. Little do "they" realize that by not answering "they" have answered my question with the reply of, "No I have not and WILL NOT!" As far as I am concerned this thread has run it's course and I GOT AN ANSWER to my question.
      You two have at it with your silly willy way's.
      Vern, in your military career how many "soldiers" do you have under your command who were "tigers" until the first round and then turned tail?
      Sam

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #18
        Sam, your anger issues aside for a moment, what are your costs for the problem the wall is supposed to solve?

        How can we answer your question, without facts? I mean, you understand that, right?
        Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 01-09-2019, 07:01.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • barretcreek
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 6065

          #19
          I sent $100 to GoFund. I also put up a building several years ago; my bid requests stipulated 'all persons on the job site must be able to prove legal work status'. 2/3 didn't reply.

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8568

            #20
            Originally posted by barretcreek
            I sent $100 to GoFund. I also put up a building several years ago; my bid requests stipulated 'all persons on the job site must be able to prove legal work status'. 2/3 didn't reply.
            Wonder how "our" two could prove verification?
            Sam

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #21
              Well Boggs if you fail to answer the question put to you in turn then why should anyone answer your questions in the future? After all, fair is fair. Is your mind really a one-way, dead-end street?

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              • m1ashooter
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 3220

                #22
                I am not willing to house anyone that has entered our country by breaking the laws of our nation.
                To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #23
                  Originally posted by rayg
                  I guess I don't understand the statement. how is it not efficient to provide money for a wall for border security? I thought that considering what the county spends currently each year to financially support or to prevent people currently coming into the country illegally via the open borders that a small one time cost of the wall would save the country many millions of dollars over the years. Those walls that have been constructed in certain areas along the border already have decreased the number of illegal crossovers and thus have saved US taxpayers a lot of money. I guess I'm confused, Ray
                  Border security, yes!....Wall...maybe in high density areas near border cities, but not a blank check based on debatable claims. To a military analogy, we have an adversary that is both mobile and dispersed. To counter him, a static defense is demanded. If you will, another Maginot Line. I don't think this one will fare any better at its intended purpose than the first one, and prefer to not see us make the twin mistakes of building it and then expecting it to work.

                  Short answer is that border security and a wall are two different topics.
                  Last edited by togor; 01-09-2019, 07:29.

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                  • S.A. Boggs
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 8568

                    #24
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Well Boggs if you fail to answer the question put to you in turn then why should anyone answer your questions in the future? After all, fair is fair. Is your mind really a one-way, dead-end street?
                    Togor, redirection back to the original post. Deflection is not working, please answer the original question if you can. Do you wish to plead the 5th?
                    Sam

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                    • Allen
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10583

                      #25
                      Chirp, chirp, chirp.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #26
                        Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                        Togor, redirection back to the original post. Deflection is not working, please answer the original question if you can. Do you wish to plead the 5th?
                        Sam
                        Answered in post #6. This is post #26. Your turn, or be silent if you have nothing to add.
                        Last edited by togor; 01-09-2019, 07:35.

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8568

                          #27
                          Originally posted by togor
                          Answered in post #6. This is post #26. Your turn, or be silent if you have nothing to add.
                          Must be a slow day changing batteries, how do you find time?
                          Sam

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