togor please help me with this...

[RED]

VV

[togor]

Red, again, I don't have the Mueller report draft in front of me yet, and Bob and I aren't scheduled to have lunch until maybe the week after next. Sorry about that.

But....as you say, while campaign chair for Trump, Manafort was passing internal campaign data to Ivan. Presumably for some cooperative purpose related to the campaign and the election, unless you have a better reason. Under US Codes, that amounts to conspiracy. A layman might use the word "collusion". We are yet to find out if the buck stops at Trump or at Manafort, but you've already given your answer on that point. Trump shall be held blameless for what the small men, the place-seekers, do under him. Thus has it always been. Thus shall it always be.

Point of order: Who is trolling who here? I don't start these types of threads and didn't start this one.

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So Trump's alter ego, Manafort, revealed polling data to the Russkies...

OKAY, all of the pre election polls said that it was going to be a slam dunk victory for Hiliarly. Those polls were public. If Manafort somehow revealed a secret poll to the contrary, so what, it is just a poll?

The basic premise that Russia and Putin wanted Trump to win is ridiculous to start with. If Hilly had won, the Ukraine would now be owned by Russia. Obama gave them the Crimea, and anybody with a brain knows Hilly wouldn't do squat if Russia were to annex the rest of the Ukraine.

Togor and the rest of the traitorous Stooges still believe in the "Russia stole the election for Trump" bull$*!t.

Come on togor where is there a single piece of evidence that Trump "colluded" with the Russians. Two years of digging through trash cans, paying people to lie, and ruining innocent people's lives hasn't produced a single piece of evidence... not one!

Come on and surrender, your lies and made up bull is just that. Go to Hell and get off this conservative pro gun, pro America forum.

Red I think you lost this.

[lyman]

y'all are so much alike,,,

[togor]

We both like dogs, but Red is a hothead and I am not.

[lyman]

he is a hothead,

and you take pleasure in pushing his buttons,


ying, yang,

[togor]

I think at this point the test of wills between Red and me is mostly focused on who was closer to the mark with their predictions of how things would pan out with Trump. I would be happy to wake up and discover that Trump is exceptionally good at stuff related to the job of President, as Red would claim, but so far I haven't seen it. Others say he's doing a terrific job, but in my view they have to overlook a lot. It bugs Red when I say things like that, but it's not meant as a personal attack on him. Whereas his jabs at me are meant to be deeply personal. So I'll accept your definition of me as being the anti-Red, with the understanding that being this is a very good thing.

[Major Tom]

I firmly believe that if Hillary had won the election, we would be in deep sh!t with the Russians. And border securety would be non existant. The Russians would have loved her to win as she would have been a push over. Drawing lines lines everywhere with no backup. Remember, Hillary and Obama sold our uranium to Russia, Obama gave 400 million in cash to some country in the middle east. Obama was so sure Hillary would win that he bought an estate near D.C. so he could help her meddle in other countries affairs. Trump certainly is no prize, but, he won because sane people saw thru Hillary and the Clinton corruption.

[Allen]

Hillary and obama rate the same as Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for being traitors to the U.S. and should receive the same type execution. I don't see where a trial is even needed for this. The uranium stunt is enough in itself.