Electoral College system for election of Governor?

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  • Jiminvirginia
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 972

    #16
    Originally posted by barretcreek
    There is movement in some state houses to ratify a pact to give their EC votes to the winner of the common vote once enough states sign on. 'Rats working behind the scene to undermine the Constitution. I expect out solidly Blue General Ass'ly to sign on to it while they have the power. The only hope we have is to remind them of the state motto:
    Whiskey's for drinking, water's for fighting.
    Most states already do that. There are only two states where the electors can vote opposite of the popular vote in that state.
    In today's world, the electoral college protects the country from New York, California, the seaboard states from always electing the President.

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    Actually reread your post Barrett. Yeah that could be bad.

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    • george r
      Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 55

      #17
      this is a reply to the OP. (the thread seems to have drifted off target.) An EC for governor as opposed to popular vote would be bad. Gerrymandering. Maryland has the most gerrymandered districts in the nation and the most bizarre boundaries in the nation compared to any other gerrymandered state. The DNC considers Maryland to be a sandbox to train its national leadership. They were astounded when the popular vote elected a Republican governor by a landslide. And again when he won re-election by a landslide. They will be astounded yet again when his lieutenant governor is elected to replace him also by a landslide. Why is this? Its because they can control the election of delegates by gerrymandering but their own party members and independents will get their way as a majority when the popular vote is counted. Without that failure in their logic, Maryland, a democratic party machine state as it is, would be run by a party machine on the order of Chicago.

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      • barretcreek
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 6065

        #18
        Originally posted by george r
        this is a reply to the OP. (the thread seems to have drifted off target.) An EC for governor as opposed to popular vote would be bad. Gerrymandering. Maryland has the most gerrymandered districts in the nation and the most bizarre boundaries in the nation compared to any other gerrymandered state. The DNC considers Maryland to be a sandbox to train its national leadership. They were astounded when the popular vote elected a Republican governor by a landslide. And again when he won re-election by a landslide. They will be astounded yet again when his lieutenant governor is elected to replace him also by a landslide. Why is this? Its because they can control the election of delegates by gerrymandering but their own party members and independents will get their way as a majority when the popular vote is counted. Without that failure in their logic, Maryland, a democratic party machine state as it is, would be run by a party machine on the order of Chicago.
        Gosh, George, having grown up in MD I always considered it to already be a corrupt D hole. I am astounded when a Republican gets elected more than once in a blue moon however.

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        • Jiminvirginia
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 972

          #19
          Well George you rained on my little parade and made a good point.
          Got to be a way to prevent gerrymandering.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #20
            Originally posted by Jiminvirginia
            Well George you rained on my little parade and made a good point.
            Got to be a way to prevent gerrymandering.
            Interesting. Arkansas passed a term limits law -- and included the state's members of Congress. They went to court and the Court ruled that states cannot enact any obstacle to getting on the ballot that is not in the Constitution.

            Now read the Constitution. To be elected to Congress, you must:

            1. Be a citizen
            2. Be over 25 years old
            3. Live in the STATE.

            That's it! Nowhere does the Constitution say you have to live in the DISTRICT you represent. So gerrymandering to force a congressman out of office (by putting two congressmen in the same district) is unconstitutional. And yet they still get away with it.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #21
              No fan of gerrymandering here either but states have the right to set district boundaries, and sometimes those boundaries change in such a way that two Congresspeople who live near each other, previously in different districts, now find themselves in the same district, and somewhere there is a district with no incumbent Congresspeople residing in it. This hardly seems like an unconstitutional scandal since elections are held to let the people sort it out. The whole problem with gerrymandering is that it allows representatives to select their constituents, when it should be the other way around.
              Last edited by togor; 01-23-2019, 06:52.

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #22
                United States Constitution. Article I, Section 2:

                Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

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                • barretcreek
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6065

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                  United States Constitution. Article I, Section 2:

                  Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
                  Bobby Kennedy.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #24
                    Originally posted by barretcreek
                    Bobby Kennedy.
                    Yep. Stuff like that explains why the Democrats say the Constitution is "outmoded."

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