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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Remember when I said it's maybe time for a third party ? ...

    Well, here he is. That is if he can survive the attacks from democrats,
    which it wouldn't surprise me if they were physical as well as verbal.

  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #2
    That was dynamite. I will have to read it a few more times. He sounds like the guy that I think might be the newer,better Trump but it's way to early to jump on that. He has an ego. He wrote a book about his poor youth. That perks up my ears(in a bad way). He is a lucky business man and has multi-millions, that doesn't mean he would be a better president than some like, say me.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      I'm not sold on corporate billionaires thinking they have the blueprint for running the government. Business maybe, government, no.

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      • S.A. Boggs
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 8578

        #4
        The coffee king could have a surprise party for the democratic party, now couldn't he!
        Sam

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #5
          I won't support him.

          Remember when Gweneth Paltrow said you should cleanse yourself by taking coffee enemas? Well, they threw me out of Starbucks!!

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          • bruce
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3759

            #6
            Third party is political suicide. Just fine with the demokrats being suicide kings. Not interested in the Republicans being stupid enough to do a perot 2.0 in 2020. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
            " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #7
              Originally posted by bruce
              Third party is political suicide. Just fine with the demokrats being suicide kings. Not interested in the Republicans being stupid enough to do a perot 2.0 in 2020. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
              The American system, with it's Separation of Powers, militates against Third Parties. Parliamentary systems, where the Parliament is Executive, Legislative and Judicial all rolled together, are different.

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              • bruce
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3759

                #8
                Re: The American system. Yes, it is different from a parliamentary form of government. Personally, the parliamentary form has less to recommend it than does the U.S. federated republic with its structure of executive, legislative and judicial. Real problem is that the judicial branch is not quasi-superior to the other two branches of govt. This of course stems from the Marshall's rump doctrine of judicial review by which the judiciary is able to run roughshod w/o any restraint by the other two essentially subject branches of govt. Proof is easy to find. Simply look at how the COTUS has been conveniently "interpreted" by the SCOTUS, etc. to service the political/social agendas of various interest groups. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
                " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10625

                  #9
                  I always thought that an Independent president would have a hard time in office due to no one wanting to work with him. Now we have it. Trump, though he ran on the GOP ticket is an Independent and the swamp Republicans resent it. In my early thinkings I pictured liberal democrats, conservative Republicans and then the possibility of an Independent that would lean left or right. Little did I realize that the GOP would become democrats and the democrats would become socialist/communist. Now, anyone running for office with common sense is considered out of touch, stupid and of course, a racist plus they have to deal with the corruption of DC including the FBI, ATF, CIA and all those thousands of obama judges.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    We need to rein in the judiciary -- and a good place to start would be with term limits.

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                    • dogtag
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 14985

                      #11
                      I imagine it would start as a third party but it would then evolve back
                      to a two party by replacing the party that had proved to be worthless
                      i.e. the democrats, aka socialists.

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                      • bruce
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3759

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                        We need to rein in the judiciary -- and a good place to start would be with term limits.
                        No. Just no. It's that simple. Currently every judge on the bench is there for life. No law is going to be passed that changes that. Any law passed would only affect newly appointed judges. That would help the liberals retain power while making it harder for conservatives to gain power. Trump is successfully reconfiguring the judiciary. The next two years are critical. Unless he is able to get his act together, he will not win re-election. He barely won on 11/16. He cannot expect a hail Mary vote from purple/blue states in 2020. He's going to have to do better to be re-elected. Otherwise, the demokrats are in the WH and the judiciary is boggered up. Trump needs to keep putting judges into lifetime appointments on the federal judiciary and hopefully another justice on the SCOTUS. Do that and the left wing liberals are effectively torpedoed for at least a generation. Fail and they will recover. Sincerely. bruce.
                        " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bruce
                          No. Just no. It's that simple. Currently every judge on the bench is there for life. No law is going to be passed that changes that. Any law passed would only affect newly appointed judges. That would help the liberals retain power while making it harder for conservatives to gain power. Trump is successfully reconfiguring the judiciary. The next two years are critical. Unless he is able to get his act together, he will not win re-election. He barely won on 11/16. He cannot expect a hail Mary vote from purple/blue states in 2020. He's going to have to do better to be re-elected. Otherwise, the demokrats are in the WH and the judiciary is boggered up. Trump needs to keep putting judges into lifetime appointments on the federal judiciary and hopefully another justice on the SCOTUS. Do that and the left wing liberals are effectively torpedoed for at least a generation. Fail and they will recover. Sincerely. bruce.
                          I'm not talking about a law, we would need a Constitutional Amendment -- and an Amendment AMENDS or changes what went before. So no judge appointed previously to the amendment could claim he was "grandfathered" in.

                          Neither am I talking about a TEMPORARY advantage for the Republicans. I am talking about an improvement for generations to come -- regardless of how it affects ME in the here-and-now.

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