New Jersey Pushes "Rain Tax" On Parking Lots

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  • sid
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3198

    #1

    New Jersey Pushes "Rain Tax" On Parking Lots

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    New Jersey residents could soon be hit with what Republicans are calling a "rain tax," if Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy signs newly passed legislation.
  • Mark in Ottawa
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1744

    #2
    The way it is being portrayed is, and is intended to be, inflammatory but the reality is that salt and other chemicals do accumulate on large paved surfaces and do get washed into the storm sewer system and then into the river system. In addition when engineers are designing sewer systems, they take into account the amount of paved surface versus grass surface as that has a major effect on the amount of water that has to be accommodated in the storm sewer system. The more asphalt there is, the greater the volume of water that flows into the sewer and the larger and more expensive the sewer has to be.

    It really is not an unreasonable approach.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #3
      Originally posted by Mark in Ottawa
      The way it is being portrayed is, and is intended to be, inflammatory but the reality is that salt and other chemicals do accumulate on large paved surfaces and do get washed into the storm sewer system and then into the river system. In addition when engineers are designing sewer systems, they take into account the amount of paved surface versus grass surface as that has a major effect on the amount of water that has to be accommodated in the storm sewer system. The more asphalt there is, the greater the volume of water that flows into the sewer and the larger and more expensive the sewer has to be.

      It really is not an unreasonable approach.
      Maybe that's why Mother Nature gave us grass, not asphalt.

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      • barretcreek
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 6065

        #4
        Maryland among other states has had a 'rain tax' on farmland as well as urban pavement. All it does is pour $$ into a corrupt bureaucracy. Be more useful to just encourage proper drainage through the Ex. Agent office.

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        • Clark Howard
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 2105

          #5
          The dems that run Charlotte, North Carolina instituted a "stormwater runoff" tax years ago, that taxes all roofs and impervious surfaces by the square foot. Every couple of years the local media catches them landscaping the property of some dem toady free of charge. They call it a service charge. I have requested the cut-off of my "service" to no avail. The tax started as a very small amount every year, but has morphed into several bucks a month. Just more cash to feed the dem's clients. Regards, Clark

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            NC has seen significant rainfall events in recent years.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11297

              #7
              no rainfall tax that I am aware of here in Va,

              however all new construction has run off areas for the large parking lots, based on sq feet IIRC
              basically a catch basin, so the water runs in a 'pond' or basin, so the 'stuff' can collect as sediment,

              wetland grasses planted (also as a way to replace any wetland that was disturbed,,,) are planted,
              they seem to be doing well,

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              • m1ashooter
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 3220

                #8
                NJ has been using salt on the roads for decades, North Jersey is highly developed up to the fall line in the central and northern part of the state and has been for decades so why this tax now. The reason is the state just likes to take away money from its citizens. There are very many beautiful places to live in NJ but I feel sorry for my friends stuck there.
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                • Vern Humphrey
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15875

                  #9
                  Originally posted by m1ashooter
                  NJ has been using salt on the roads for decades, North Jersey is highly developed up to the fall line in the central and northern part of the state and has been for decades so why this tax now. The reason is the state just likes to take away money from its citizens. There are very many beautiful places to live in NJ but I feel sorry for my friends stuck there.
                  My youngest daughter lives in New Jersey. Whenever I visit, I like to walk the streets and try to FIND what they do with all the money they syphon out of the citizens' pockets. They SHOULD have the best infrastructure, the best schools, the lowest crime rate and so on.

                  But they don't.

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                  • S.A. Boggs
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 8579

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                    My youngest daughter lives in New Jersey. Whenever I visit, I like to walk the streets and try to FIND what they do with all the money they syphon out of the citizens' pockets. They SHOULD have the best infrastructure, the best schools, the lowest crime rate and so on.

                    But they don't.
                    Isn't this the hallmark of the Socialist state?
                    Sam

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                    • JB White
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 13371

                      #11
                      Ask when the rain taxes collected will be used to upgrade the drainage system.
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                      • blackhawknj
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3754

                        #12
                        No, the rain tax will go into a rainy day fund.

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                        • 1563621
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1103

                          #13
                          Originally posted by blackhawknj
                          No, the rain tax will go into a rainy day fund.
                          That the dems piss away as fast as it comes in!

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