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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Is Slavery making a comeback ?...

    What is slavery anyway but a way for uneducated people
    to survive by working for someone else. Not for a wage,
    but for food and shelter.
    I figure this is happening all over the Country. It just
    hasn't been talked about. Until now ?

  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #2
    What do you think welfare is?
    Sam

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
      What do you think welfare is?
      Sam
      Exactly right -- and those people who are opposed to the wall and to enforcement of our immigration laws are co-conspirators.

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        So much fear.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #5
          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
          Exactly right -- and those people who are opposed to the wall and to enforcement of our immigration laws are co-conspirators.
          Many who oppose illegal immigration are unlike those who want it. Those who want illegals want someone else to do it, not willing to do it themselves. Those of those who are against it are willing to go to great length's to oppose them.
          Sam

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          • Roadkingtrax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 7835

            #6
            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
            Many who oppose illegal immigration are unlike those who want it. Those who want illegals want someone else to do it, not willing to do it themselves. Those of those who are against it are willing to go to great length's to oppose them.
            Sam
            Perhaps you should start by holding the president accountable for the statement, "Mexico will pay for the wall." Seems like an easy place for you to begin.

            Otherwise, I don't see you going to any length at all...unless the cubic feet of hot air emitting from your mouth is the measure of your resolve.
            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
              What do you think welfare is?
              Sam
              Are welfare and slavery the same? One is compulsory labor at minimal compensation, and the other is a form of support for the basic necessities of life, intended to be given on the basis of need and not in exchange for labor*. Both may be thought of as systems into which an individual becomes trapped, but that does not make them the same any more than leukemia and gout are the same for both being diseases.

              *Interestingly enough, it tends to be Republican governors who currently seek to add a compulsory labor component to existing welfare programs, with the general support of the Federal government.
              Last edited by togor; 03-30-2019, 03:35.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                and those people who are opposed to the wall and to enforcement of our immigration laws are co-conspirators.
                That would be a lot landscaping and roofing companies, and meatpacking plants, right?

                As a tangible symbol of discontent regarding the current state of our immigration laws, the wall is an unquestioned success. As cost-effective means of bringing our immigration situation to a sustainable state, it's a bad business proposition. All of the action right now is at Ports of Entry. Those Ports of Entry will still exist even with a wall. The irony is remarkable, but not altogether surprising, that the segment of the electorate that regularly decries Federal boondoggles has their heart set on one of the biggest boondoggles to be proposed in decades.
                Last edited by togor; 03-30-2019, 03:44.

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                • dryheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10587

                  #9
                  Import 500,000 third world individuals and you get third world problems.
                  If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    Import twice that many and we will BE the third world.

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                    • dogtag
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 14985

                      #11
                      Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                      What do you think welfare is?
                      Sam
                      That is a typically ridiculous comparison.
                      Slaves were not owned by the government,
                      they were owned by private citizens - plantation owners etc.
                      And in this case it is a private citizen who is accused.

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dogtag
                        That is a typically ridiculous comparison.
                        Slaves were not owned by the government,
                        they were owned by private citizens - plantation owners etc.
                        And in this case it is a private citizen who is accused.
                        Yes, slaves were owned by governments. Many cities owned slaves and used them for such things as construction work and so on. New Orleans bought slaves to build the levees and drainage canals.

                        The New Orleans slaves died of disease in the swamps and the work had to stop -- until the Potato Famine brought starving Irish. The Irish, needing work, went into the swamps and finished the work. And we buried our dead in mass graves.

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8568

                          #13
                          Unlike "our" three I was extensively involved with those in the system so have first hand knowledge. Too many of those I dealt with weren't mentally ill, just lazy. Many gamed the system so as not to work and be a sloth to society. Why help those who won't help their own family??? These people are the power base of the Nazi's and the Nazi's need them in a servitude environment. Welfare has gone from helping to becoming a cottage industry and doing quite well thank you. Section 8, public housing, free phones, free computers and service in some instances, transportation, medical aid and the list is almost endless, yet never enough. There are people with genuine needs, I have seen it. I have seen more who are just letting someone else take care of them at government cost. National Socialism which the new version of the Democratic Party is pushing is the start of the cancer that will kill ALL OF US! Sooner, not later this Disneyland for Dummies will go down due to the constant printing of money, what then? America comes to the aid of the world, who will help us? If one keeps giving away the store, what happens when the store is empty?
                          Sam

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #14
                            DT doesn't like it when his threads get hijacked.

                            What the lady did was bad, but I would think she's part of an organization. The massage parlour where Bob Kraft (NFL owner) was caught on tape was under investigation as being in a sex trafficking syndicate. So unfortunately, yes, DT, slavery is still with us in a modern form.

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #15
                              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                              Unlike "our" three I was extensively involved with those in the system so have first hand knowledge. Too many of those I dealt with weren't mentally ill, just lazy. Many gamed the system so as not to work and be a sloth to society. Why help those who won't help their own family??? These people are the power base of the Nazi's and the Nazi's need them in a servitude environment. Welfare has gone from helping to becoming a cottage industry and doing quite well thank you. Section 8, public housing, free phones, free computers and service in some instances, transportation, medical aid and the list is almost endless, yet never enough. There are people with genuine needs, I have seen it. I have seen more who are just letting someone else take care of them at government cost. National Socialism which the new version of the Democratic Party is pushing is the start of the cancer that will kill ALL OF US! Sooner, not later this Disneyland for Dummies will go down due to the constant printing of money, what then? America comes to the aid of the world, who will help us? If one keeps giving away the store, what happens when the store is empty?
                              Sam
                              You nailed it -- there is only one way this will end, in the death of society. Pray for Donald Trump's success, and work for him to be succeeded by a man of equal vision and ability.

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