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  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10583

    #1

    Why isn't this enforced here?

    David Beckham gets punished for using his cell phone while driving.

    Here, a very large % of drivers use their phones the whole time they are on the road.

    Phones could be incorporated with a GPS signal that would make them not work if the auto was in motion. Motorist did just fine for over a hundred years w/o constant phone conversations while driving. We don't need it now. I believe there are various laws on the books everywhere but none are enforced. Only AFTER an accident occurs does the subject come up.

  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8569

    #2
    Same reason as DUI, lack of public commitment and MSM has not taken upon themselves to act on it. People will do what they want to do regardless of consequence, this is human nature.
    Sam

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      If it weren't for the fact that they kill innocent people, it would be a good thing -- texting or using a cell phone while driving is Darwin at work.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11270

        #4
        not enough revenue yet,

        like speeding, 5-10 MPH over is usually allowed on the highways, the traffic cops prefer to get the higher speed demons, since it is more $$

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        • Allen
          Moderator
          • Sep 2009
          • 10583

          #5
          The going thing here is the state troopers. A speeding ticket cost $200+ the last time I checked plus additional court cost if you would like to make the donation and take a day off of work to do so. Anything over 20mph over the posted speed limit = reckless driving and auto court hearings where the arresting cop has to be present to defend the case, something they like to avoid. The problem with that is they will ticket everybody and anybody they like with no accountability. I have been ticketed for speeding on the interstate highway while being sandwiched in between traffic. I couldn't have speeded if I had wanted to. Now in most cases I was in fact speeding but not what was indicated on the ticket. They always max it out up to the 20mph limit but not over (unless you were actually doing it). In other words a 60mph ticket would indicate you were driving 80mph and so forth to get the extra money.

          Now, it looks to me that ticketing cell phone users would be an easy thing to do and they could charge whatever the states desired. Night time enforcement would be difficult though but daytime--easy and a phone can be checked to see what activity has been made if the driver claimed they were innocent.

          Same for loud, illegal mufflers.

          Easy money for the towns and states while improving driving conditions for others. It would certainly be more money than not ticketing.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #6
            Originally posted by Allen
            Now, it looks to me that ticketing cell phone users would be an easy thing to do and they could charge whatever the states desired. Night time enforcement would be difficult though but daytime--easy and a phone can be checked to see what activity has been made if the driver claimed they were innocent.
            It seems to me you could make an open-and-shut case with a dashcam picture of the culprit -- and you could have enough gain to see at night as well.

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            • dogtag
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 14985

              #7
              Don't have one. Don't want one. I see no need to talk to friends
              on the phone whilst in Safeway, and certainly not while driving.

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #8
                Originally posted by dogtag
                Don't have one. Don't want one. I see no need to talk to friends
                on the phone whilst in Safeway, and certainly not while driving.
                On two or three occasions -- transmission failure, hitting a deer -- I have used a cell phone to get help. But I don't drive with it turned on.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  GPS motion interlock would needlessly screw the passengers and any navigating functions for the drivers.

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                  • Allen
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10583

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                    On two or three occasions -- transmission failure, hitting a deer -- I have used a cell phone to get help. But I don't drive with it turned on.
                    Same here. I use to call in to work when I got behind a traffic jam to let them know I might be late. I've used it to call 911 when witnessing a wreck. Most all the time it stays turned off. I don't use it to chat. What I use to see every day was people talking on the phone while driving 40mph on the interstate weaving back and forth. I didn't study everyone I passed, that would be as bad as being on the phone but I couldn't help but notice about half the men and most all the women yacking on the phone at 4:00am. Who the hell are they talking to at 4am? No doubt they are talking to girl and boyfriends, perhaps cheating on their spouses but still, 4:00am ????

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #11
                      As I see it, a cell phone in a car is like a spare tire -- you should have one, but not use it until you need it. And then you should pull well off the road for safety.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        No over-the-road sales guys in this thread yet.

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11270

                          #13
                          I leave mine on 24\7,

                          chat driving down the road often,

                          all 'hands free', phone in my pocket or on the dash, and blue tooth connected to the car,


                          the truck drivers I used to interact with in my last job were all required to wear headsets if they were on the phone, or radio

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                          • RED
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11689

                            #14
                            In thirty years on the road I drove a automobile an average of over 50,000 miles a year (1.5 million miles) and about 80% of the time the company owned vehicle carried out of State plates. In 30 years I got probably close to 100 tickets and maybe 12 of those were legit. The others were all made up BS and almost all of those were issued by cops in small rural towns and counties. I rarely had a beef with State Troopers and they were usually very professional.

                            Here is an example: Curryville, MO 1998. It is on Hwy. 54 in eastern MO north of St. LouisI had never been through there before and had no idea of the danger. First sign "Speed Zone Ahead." Then 100 yards later "45 MPH," and then (hidden behind a utility pole) was the "20 MPH." I braked hard and got down to 20 and stayed there until I passed the city limit sign leaving the town. Five miles later I saw a cop car coming up behind me lights flashing... The ticket said 24 in a 20 MPH zone. On the return trip the next day I, I slowed down to 15 MPH and got a "obstructing traffic," citation. To make a longer story shorter, that is 2 moving violations, and I was in danger of my license being suspended and losing my job. Night court, 90 miles one way... pleaded not guilty and the case was postponed... 3 times. On the 3rd time the prosecutor did me a favor and in return for a guilty plea, he reduced the charges to 2 noisy muffler violations. No points but of course the fine was $175 on each charge plus $22.50 court costs.

                            Last edited by RED; 05-11-2019, 08:07.

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                            • Sandpebble
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 2196

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RED
                              In thirty years on the road I drove a automobile an average of over 50,000 miles a year (1.5 million miles) and about 80% of the time the company owned vehicle carried out of State plates. In 30 years I got probably close to 100 tickets and maybe 12 of those were legit. The others were all made up BS and almost all of those were issued by cops in small rural towns and counties. I rarely had a beef with State Troopers and they were usually very professional.

                              Here is an example: Curryville, MO 1998. It is on Hwy. 54 in eastern MO north of St. LouisI had never been through there before and had no idea of the danger. First sign "Speed Zone Ahead." Then 100 yards later "45 MPH," and then (hidden behind a utility pole) was the "20 MPH." I braked hard and got down to 20 and stayed there until I passed the city limit sign leaving the town. Five miles later I saw a cop car coming up behind me lights flashing... The ticket said 24 in a 20 MPH zone. On the return trip the next day I, I slowed down to 15 MPH and got a "obstructing traffic," citation. To make a longer story shorter, that is 2 moving violations, and I was in danger of my license being suspended and losing my job. Night court, 90 miles one way... pleaded not guilty and the case was postponed... 3 times. On the 3rd time the prosecutor did me a favor and in return for a guilty plea, he reduced the charges to 2 noisy muffler violations. No points but of course the fine was $175 on each charge plus $22.50 court costs.

                              https://www.speedtrap.org/missouri/curryville/page/3/
                              dang..... bet those cops got up graded to positions in the FBI ...... America is such a terrible place...

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