It it isn't an invasion what is?

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  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #1

    It it isn't an invasion what is?

    For two months in a row the border patrol has apprehended over 100,000 people. You can look it up. And with a simple twist of a phrase we are allowing all of south America to just stroll into north America. We just stand here flat footed and let it happen. And all you hear on the news is Russia, Russia, Russia.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.
  • Sandpebble
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 2196

    #2
    So, considering more people are making the effort to cross the border now ... are you saying the efforts made by our Government over the past two years are working... or not?

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    • dryheat
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 10587

      #3
      Efforts. Efforts to stem the tide? They are making apprehensions at the border. The judges actually realized the crisis and didn't over ride Trumps request that asylum seekers stay in Mexico...somewhat. We are building two Tent Cities in TX to house asylum seekers so that effort has had limited success. Bus loads of illegals(and I consider them illegals) are released daily in cities from CA to TX. If they (seekers) didn't think they had a good chance of getting into the US they wouldn't be coming by the quarter millions. The whole asylum thing is our downfall. It's a world wide phenomenon. I suppose some world court or the UN decreed it and we are helpless to resist.
      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10583

        #4
        Until force is used the problem will get worse.

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        • Sandpebble
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 2196

          #5
          The question still stands .... as more are attempting to enter the US than ever before... are we doing the right thing?

          trump felt that the fear of separating children from their parentswould deter their attempt at entry.... obviously that didn't work .

          I actually agree with Trump on letting them stay in Mexico to await their applications ....

          and if an asylum seeker presented himself at the border and was permited entry to take advantage of those "tent cities" .... then he is not an illegal .

          how many tent cities were erected during the previous administration ?.... you know... the administration that deported more illegals than the administration before that ??

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          • dryheat
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 10587

            #6
            are we doing the right thing?- As in the Do Gooder thing? Well, yes. We're nice a pie. Is it a good thing? I don't see how.

            Maybe a little miss statement on your part, but Trump isn't "letting" them stay in Mexico. He's making them stay. They don't like it, Mexico doesn't like it and the ACLU and "immigration advocates" don't like it.

            Separating families worked "a little". It made the thing just a little less pleasant and it might have discouraged a small percentage.

            Surprise! A small portion of the people who are let in ever show up for their hearing. Why would they? They're here now and they aren't going back. You have to really be bad to get deported and if you are just just come back. Many deportees have been apprehended multiple times. The one's you hear about are the one's that commit murder after being deported three times.

            It's a leaky boat. You can bail all you want but if you don't fix the leak the math is against you. I don't know how many Obama returned, but when the Big Recession hit ten's of thousands "self deported" just because there wasn't any work. In Phx. a half dozen elementary schools were closed because the students disappeared.

            "Illegal" is my term because I don't consider a simple change in terminology to sufficiently describe it.
            If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Change the asylum law, in exchange for some kind of permanent residency status with work rights for those who have been here for awhile, and have a clean record.
              Last edited by togor; 05-11-2019, 04:39.

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              • bruce
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3759

                #8
                Invasion? No. Man caused disaster! That's what it is. MCD. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
                " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                • Sandpebble
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 2196

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dryheat
                  are we doing the right thing?- As in the Do Gooder thing? Well, yes. We're nice a pie. Is it a good thing? I don't see how.

                  Maybe a little miss statement on your part, but Trump isn't "letting" them stay in Mexico. He's making them stay. They don't like it, Mexico doesn't like it and the ACLU and "immigration advocates" don't like it.

                  Separating families worked "a little". It made the thing just a little less pleasant and it might have discouraged a small percentage.

                  Surprise! A small portion of the people who are let in ever show up for their hearing. Why would they? They're here now and they aren't going back. You have to really be bad to get deported and if you are just just come back. Many deportees have been apprehended multiple times. The one's you hear about are the one's that commit murder after being deported three times.

                  It's a leaky boat. You can bail all you want but if you don't fix the leak the math is against you. I don't know how many Obama returned, but when the Big Recession hit ten's of thousands "self deported" just because there wasn't any work. In Phx. a half dozen elementary schools were closed because the students disappeared.

                  "Illegal" is my term because I don't consider a simple change in terminology to sufficiently describe it.
                  In particular... your statement ... "In Phx. a half dozen elementary schools were closed because the students disappeared."
                  { are you complaining that they are leaving... or coming in? }

                  I remember a reporters interview of a school bus driver in your area who bitched no end about " aliens".... then found herself jobless when the students left . what do we want ?

                  Here in my part of the country people whined that the "imigrants" could afford to steal the low paid jobs from Americans because they were willing to live 8 in a house....

                  Now my neighborhood is filled with 26 year olds still living with Mom and Dad because they don't have the oomph to get out there and do it on their own .

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                  • clintonhater
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 5220

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Change the asylum law, in exchange for some kind of permanent residency status with work rights for those who have been here for awhile, and have a clean record.
                    If "a while" meant a min. of 10 yrs (so as not to reward the current wave of law breakers), I could choke that down; how many Demo office-holders would do the same? Not ONE in the House!

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11269

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sandpebble
                      The question still stands .... as more are attempting to enter the US than ever before... are we doing the right thing?

                      trump felt that the fear of separating children from their parentswould deter their attempt at entry.... obviously that didn't work .

                      I actually agree with Trump on letting them stay in Mexico to await their applications ....

                      and if an asylum seeker presented himself at the border and was permited entry to take advantage of those "tent cities" .... then he is not an illegal .

                      how many tent cities were erected during the previous administration ?.... you know... the administration that deported more illegals than the administration before that ??
                      kids were seperated under the past adminstrations,,,,,,

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by clintonhater
                        If "a while" meant a min. of 10 yrs (so as not to reward the current wave of law breakers), I could choke that down; how many Demo office-holders would do the same? Not ONE in the House!
                        Yeah, a long time like that. Is it enough to get a deal through both the house and Trump? True, probably not.

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                        • PWC
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1366

                          #13
                          We are being invaded by aliens, and homesteaded

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            How's about for every illegal we admit, we expel one Democrat?

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                            • Allen
                              Moderator
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 10583

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                              How's about for every illegal we admit, we expel one Democrat?
                              All the illegals vote democrat so that won't help matters. We'll just get more and more people demanding their "rights" and wanting to change our language to theirs.

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