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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Here's a depressing statistic ...

    If we assume the poll is reasonably accurate, then I don't
    think it bodes well for the future:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ite-House.html


    Only comment for a Socialist President is Venezuela.
    As for a Muslim as President - just think
    what the Muslim Mayor has done for London.
  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #2
    Originally posted by dogtag
    If we assume the poll is reasonably accurate, then I don't
    think it bodes well for the future:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ite-House.html


    Only comment for a Socialist President is Venezuela.
    As for a Muslim as President - just think
    what the Muslim Mayor has done for London.
    Just think what the Muslim President did TO the US.

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8568

      #3
      In college a statistics course was required for my degree. Basically how to make numbers fit what the author want them to say. Where was the survey taken, what time of day, what was the population and how "random" a sample was there.
      Sam

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #4
        And there's: Lies, Big Lies, and Statistics.

        Hopefully those statistics are Very Big Lies.

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #5
          Originally posted by dogtag
          And there's: Lies, Big Lies, and Statistics.

          Hopefully those statistics are Very Big Lies.
          How do you think Hillary "won" the last election?
          Sam

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          • blackhawknj
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 3754

            #6
            So much depends on the where, when, and how of poll taking. There was the Literary Digest poll of 1936 that showed Alf Landon defeating FDR. Their problem-they called people with telephones, still something of a luxury item then. And I suspect people have become careful about answering poll takers lest you be labeled as "racist/sexist/homophobic", etc.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
              In college a statistics course was required for my degree. Basically how to make numbers fit what the author want them to say. Where was the survey taken, what time of day, what was the population and how "random" a sample was there.
              Sam
              Sounds like you were in a crappy course or aren't a math guy. Statistical analysis is by itself an objective tool. True that in the social sciences it can be misapplied, but that's not a fault of the math. Stats are indispensable in say manufacturing for example.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11268

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                Sounds like you were in a crappy course or aren't a math guy. Statistical analysis is by itself an objective tool. True that in the social sciences it can be misapplied, but that's not a fault of the math. Stats are indispensable in say manufacturing for example.
                way back in the 80's I had a Stat class,
                even back then, it was mostly political polling etc, and some on the math involved, very little on the manufacturing side was taught,

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lyman
                  way back in the 80's I had a Stat class,
                  even back then, it was mostly political polling etc, and some on the math involved, very little on the manufacturing side was taught,
                  Fun wasn't it!
                  Sam

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11268

                    #10
                    no, not at all, the one class I truly did not like,,

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8568

                      #11
                      Stat's next to my biology class was the worst classes that I had in college, most unpleasant. After the course was completed, O.U. decided to divide the course into two semesters as the course proved most difficult! The previous course was revamped to make it more "modern" in scope.
                      Sam

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                      • Jiminvirginia
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 972

                        #12
                        Based on my observations those numbers are likely pretty accurate.

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8568

                          #13
                          In statistics 50% of nothing is still nothing.
                          Sam

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