Tariff's

[Vern Humphrey]

We don't drive to Italy nor do we need to. We can still travel to Italy in other means though and still import/export with them. Should Mexico be any different? Being closer to me makes it all more important to close it due to all the abuse. Green cards, migrant workers? Cut welfare and citizens here will form lines to obtain jobs now being done by foreigners.

I'm not arguing with you -- I just say it would be very difficult. For one thing, Regressive judges would block it.

[dryheat]

It can't be closed because Mexico is our neighbor, unlike Italy. Along the border it's hard to distinguish where Mexico ends and the U.S. begins.

[S.A. Boggs]

There are many borders, legal, physical, financial, which one can be used most to stop the illegal flow?
Sam

[dryheat]

There are many borders, legal, physical, financial, which one can be used most to stop the illegal flow?
Sam

Games over man, they kicked our ass. In 200 yrs you won't recognize this country. I intend to live that long. You could slow it down with mines. Stuff like that gets peoples attention. And antifa's attention. Shooting people off of fences went out with the Berlin wall. I like the idea but it isn't going to happen. Well, it might. Who knows what's in store.
But as long as there are lawyers the asylum ploy works. Until it is overridden. But while it's debated(I would spend about one hr on debate)thousands more pour in.
The U.S. is monolithic. It can't move fast. Cockroaches,ants and woodpeckers move fast an get it done. We don't follow that model.

Legal? Takes forever. Physical? Not practical. Financial? Poor people aren't swayed. Political? That can work. In a word.

[togor]

Speaking of tariffs, the latest proposal, to start at 5% with Mexico and bump it up by 5% every month (max 25%) has quite a few people talking.

The idea is to tax US businesses and consumers depending on how well the Mexican government does or doesn't do something. People look at that and see that it might not work. Aha, but Mexico is spooked and is sending an emissary to DC to hash this out, so.... leverage applied! Well maybe not. Mexico will get hurt but it's far from clear they get hurt the most. And there may only be so much they can do. They're not the richest country, don't have all the fancy electronic gear, but their border with us is exactly the same length as ours with them.

[dryheat]

So maybe the Mexicans piling in here will say, what's so great about this place. Might as well go home. Some medications either cure you or kill you.

[Vern Humphrey]

It is not a bad idea, if you want to keep people out of a place, to make their experience there so miserable that they don't want to go back.

[RED]

Speaking of tariffs, the latest proposal, to start at 5% with Mexico and bump it up by 5% every month (max 25%) has quite a few people talking.

The idea is to tax US businesses and consumers depending on how well the Mexican government does or doesn't do something. People look at that and see that it might not work. Aha, but Mexico is spooked and is sending an emissary to DC to hash this out, so.... leverage applied! Well maybe not. Mexico will get hurt but it's far from clear they get hurt the most. And there may only be so much they can do. They're not the richest country, don't have all the fancy electronic gear, but their border with us is exactly the same length as ours with them.

More lies.... The Mexican borders are secure. Try walking or driving illegally across the order into Mexico and you will find your butt in a celda.

[Roadkingtrax]

More lies.... The Mexican borders are secure. Try walking or driving illegally across the order into Mexico and you will find your butt in a celda.

Your President disagrees with you.

[togor]

More lies.... The Mexican borders are secure. Try walking or driving illegally across the order into Mexico and you will find your butt in a celda.

Why the latest tariff talk then?

[lyman]

RED,

I would bet you are talking about the US Border with Mexico,, as in walking/driving etc FROM the US to Mexico,

wondering in the Mexican Border is as secure along their southern border??

[Allen]

It can't be closed because Mexico is our neighbor, unlike Italy. Along the border it's hard to distinguish where Mexico ends and the U.S. begins.

Israel, Syria and Jordan are neighbors. Iran and Iraq are neighbors and just like them we have had wars with our neighbor Mexico in the past. What is going on now would be considered and act of war by most other countries. The border is becoming more distinguished.

[lyman]

found this while reading about tomatoes,,,

But sealing its porous southern border with Guatemala is probably impossible because Mexico lacks sufficient infrastructure to completely patrol a frontier that includes a river passing through dense jungle.

https://apnews.com/6aca0c83523d411ca78d9c6e9ca50ab4

some mention of Mexico and the caravans etc in the article

[S.A. Boggs]

found this while reading about tomatoes,,,

https://apnews.com/6aca0c83523d411ca78d9c6e9ca50ab4

some mention of Mexico and the caravans etc in the article

Personally I would rather grow tomatoes then just read about them...
Sam

[lyman]

Personally I would rather grow tomatoes then just read about them...
Sam

I don't like fresh tomatoes, (they taste odd to me)
but love tomato sauces etc
used to grow a pile of them

wife cannot have them on her AIP diet (nightshades area a no no) so I did not plant any this year