A Propaganda Gift To The Islamists

[togor]

Pardoning convicted war criminals allows the other side to tell the locals that US forces are not to be trusted. This from a GWOT combat officer.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/o...y-pardons.html

[blackhawknj]

The US Court of Military Appeals recently dismissed-with prejudice-rape charges against a Coast Guard PO, they cited command influence-jury tampering and jury stacking, 5 of the panelists were women, 4 of whom were involved in programs helping victims of sexual assault-and weak evidence. I personally have had no confidence in the military justice system since the My Lai courts-martial, and I don't anybody else should either.

[togor]

I have an in-law who works for the DOD on Okinawa. Every time a US serviceman gets arrested for assault, etc., it's a huge deal. Our troops operate where the locals aren't always glad to have them around.

[Vern Humphrey]

The US Court of Military Appeals recently dismissed-with prejudice-rape charges against a Coast Guard PO, they cited command influence-jury tampering and jury stacking, 5 of the panelists were women, 4 of whom were involved in programs helping victims of sexual assault-and weak evidence. I personally have had no confidence in the military justice system since the My Lai courts-martial, and I don't anybody else should either.

I was there. Lieutenant Calley was convicted -- I personally knew three of the panelists. Ironically, I could have got him off. His defense lawyer, George Lattimer, who considered himself an expert because he had been on the Court of Military Appeals, got him convicted. While he escaped the death penalty, he got a pretty harsh sentence from the Court -- life in prison. The Court of Military Appeals reduced it to 20 years, the Secretary of the Army reduced it farther to 10 years, Nixon directed he be kept in house arrest at Fort Benning, and public pressure got him paroled in about three years.

The weakness of the case against Calley was apparent, and the only hope of convicting the Company commander, Ernest Medina, was Calley's testimony -- and F. Lee Bailey, Medina's lawyer, bluffed Calley into refusing to testify.

I did not know Calley personally, but I did know Medina -- he should have been 'dobe walled.

[clintonhater]

Pardoning convicted war criminals allows the other side to tell the locals that US forces are not to be trusted.

That's a laugh--torture, rape, murder, are SOP on "the other side"; ask anybody in any Muslim country charged with any crime who they'd rather have adjudicating their case, US authorities, or "the other side."

[togor]

That's a laugh--torture, rape, murder, are SOP on "the other side"; ask anybody in any Muslim country charged with any crime who they'd rather have adjudicating their case, US authorities, or "the other side."

So you condone criminal activity by those in US uniforms, or, worse, argue that there is no such thing as criminality against the ragheads? That's incredibly short sighted.

[dryheat]

So you condone criminal activity by those in US uniforms, or, worse, argue that there is no such thing as criminality against the ragheads? That's incredibly short sighted.

Clintonhater is always right. Well, in the first place, there are no "trials" as we know them in the sandpile. Our trials go on for three yrs and cost three million dollars. War is a mess. I don't like the part where the ants get trampled, but combatants get killed "under the table" so to speak and that's something I consider all part of the game. So to follow up on the theme, Mexican criminals housed here in the U.S. were offered a trade deal where they could do their time in Mexico. There were no takers. Of course this is just a story I heard, but I'd kind of hang my hat on it.

[clintonhater]

So you condone criminal activity by those in US uniforms, or, worse, argue that there is no such thing as criminality against the ragheads?

Killing the treacherous back-stabbing cowards (who ALWAYS pretend to be non-combatants when captured) they were sent there to fight is not "criminal activity," except in PC-land--which, incredibly, now includes the Pentagon! Even to talk about the possibility of "criminal activity" perpetrated against these bombers of schools, assassins of unarmed women & other civilians, is a preposterous absurdity!

[clintonhater]

So to follow up on the theme, Mexican criminals housed here in the U.S. were offered a trade deal where they could do their time in Mexico. There were no takers. Of course this is just a story I heard, but I'd kind of hang my hat on it.

Watch a few episodes of the long-running Nat Geo series, "Locked-Up Abroad," which documents the horrible conditions of US citizens imprisoned in foreign countries (usually for drug-trafficking) and you'll see it's not just a "story." Prisons in Mexico are among the worst, so I'd bet most Mexicans (except the ones rich enough to pay for protection) would choose TWICE the time in a US jail vs. serving their time in a Mexican hell-hole!

[S.A. Boggs]

I was there. Lieutenant Calley was convicted -- I personally knew three of the panelists. Ironically, I could have got him off. His defense lawyer, George Lattimer, who considered himself an expert because he had been on the Court of Military Appeals, got him convicted. While he escaped the death penalty, he got a pretty harsh sentence from the Court -- life in prison. The Court of Military Appeals reduced it to 20 years, the Secretary of the Army reduced it farther to 10 years, Nixon directed he be kept in house arrest at Fort Benning, and public pressure got him paroled in about three years.

The weakness of the case against Calley was apparent, and the only hope of convicting the Company commander, Ernest Medina, was Calley's testimony -- and F. Lee Bailey, Medina's lawyer, bluffed Calley into refusing to testify.

I did not know Calley personally, but I did know Medina -- he should have been 'dobe walled.

Were you @ My Lai 4 or just the court martial?
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

Were you @ My Lai 4 or just the court martial?
Sam

Just the court martial. I was never that far south in Viet Nam.

And when the accusations came out, I admit I did not believe them -- how could anyone be so stupid as to do something like that? How could anyone be so stupid as to cover it up?

[S.A. Boggs]

Just the court martial. I was never that far south in Viet Nam.

And when the accusations came out, I admit I did not believe them -- how could anyone be so stupid as to do something like that? How could anyone be so stupid as to cover it up?

Not hard to try and cover it up like what the Russian's did to the Polish Officers.
Sam

[RED]

So you condone criminal activity by those in US uniforms, or, worse, argue that there is no such thing as criminality against the ragheads? That's incredibly short sighted.

You wouldn't know criminalty if it walked up and spit in your ugly assed face. Want to see criminality , look at the FBI, CIA, NSA, Obama's DOJ and the entire DNC. They are still trying to overthrow the Constitutional Government of the USA. And you support them. You are a traitor along with Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Mueller, the Clintons, Obama and the entire MSN. I hope you all rot in Hell.

[togor]

You wouldn't know criminalty if it walked up and spit in your ugly assed face. Want to see criminality , look at the FBI, CIA, NSA, Obama's DOJ and the entire DNC. They are still trying to overthrow the Constitutional Government of the USA. And you support them. You are a traitor along with Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Mueller, the Clintons, Obama and the entire MSN. I hope you all rot in Hell.

Always good to hear from Red. I hope the hemorrhoids aren't giving you too much trouble. What was the common name for them? Piles, right?

[S.A. Boggs]

You wouldn't know criminalty if it walked up and spit in your ugly assed face. Want to see criminality , look at the FBI, CIA, NSA, Obama's DOJ and the entire DNC. They are still trying to overthrow the Constitutional Government of the USA. And you support them. You are a traitor along with Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Mueller, the Clintons, Obama and the entire MSN. I hope you all rot in Hell.

Red, Red hell is how "they" feel since Hillary was cast out and the Senate continues to confirm young conservative judges. This is what "they" cannot stomach and it sticks in their throat that there is not one dog gone thing "they" can do about it. Togey and Road less trash know that "their" days are numbered now that the investigators are marching "them" to the hot seat. Sit back, grab a cold one and watch the fun. Each day Togey and Road less trash get up knowing that another stake is driven into their soulless hearts as the left continue to squirm. Locked up in their own black hole of misery, each day as another left wing buys the farm, each day knowing control has slipped from their greasy hands. But, But is all "they" can utter, "it's not fair" can also be heard with a loud moaning voice. 2020 will continue their spiral down, more of "their" heroes to the gallows and long time imprisonment. Perhaps a former President[s] sitting in the docket to answer to their treasonous crimes.
A cell in Alderson awaits a former Sec. of State to do her time for crimes against the Republic. Leftist had their best shot and came up short, now "they" need to batten down the hatches as "their" garbage scowl flounders on the rocks of truth being battered by wave after wave of AG Barr and indictments. People never thought the USSR would fall, now is the turn of the NSDWP to be placed in the trash bin of history.
Sam