Reproations

[togor]

Cutting checks to those currently alive makes little sense. What makes more sense is examining what legacy structural inequalities still remain. Good clear-eyed conservatives of the Party of Lincoln should have no problem with that.

[JohnPeeff]

I heard an interesting argument against the subject of reparations. Blacks should be thankful that their ancestors were brought here as slaves or else they would be living in Africa today. I don't necessarily agree with that. Our country definitely failed them during the reconstruction period and everything stems from that. I know a college professor historian who says probably more whites were lynched, cattle rustlers ,horse thiefs and the likes than Blacks in the south. It is going to be one heck of an election cycle.

[togor]

I heard an interesting argument against the subject of reparations. Blacks should be thankful that their ancestors were brought here as slaves or else they would be living in Africa today. I don't necessarily agree with that. Our country definitely failed them during the reconstruction period and everything stems from that. I know a college professor historian who says probably more whites were lynched, cattle rustlers ,horse thiefs and the likes than Blacks in the south. It is going to be one heck of an election cycle.

Lynching of blacks was used in the Jim Crow era as a systematic means of intimidation, instilling terror to keep the population cowed. It's use on whites would not be for the same purpose. Whites were less likely to be lynched on just a rumor. I just traveled to Europe for work. Connected through Amsterdam, which is a major hub for airlines flying out of Africa, and Detroit, which has many blacks working there. American whites, or blacks, are American. They remind me much more of each other than they do present-day Africans, or Europeans. It's long past time to get over skin color, or culture, and build a future here together, all as Americans. In my opinion.

[clintonhater]

Blacks should be thankful that their ancestors were brought here as slaves or else they would be living in Africa today. I don't necessarily agree with that.

But the average out-of-work, possibly starving, possibly brutalized, black African today (exempting the corrupt pols & bureaucrats who run those countries) would most certainly "agree with that." They'd just LOVE to put up with the "relentless racism" they'd have to suffer (according to US race-baiters) in this country!

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It's long past time to get over skin color, or culture, and build a future here together, all as Americans.

IMPOSSIBLE, while Dems exploit race-baiting to further their own political objectives!!!

[clintonhater]

When this subject was brought in the 1970s someone suggested they be paid ONLY to those who can prove they are descended from slaves by those PROVEN to be descendants of slave owners.

You've missed the whole point of the latest racebaiter argument for reps., spelled out explicitly by that POS with the queer name for whom Congress, Repubs included, bent over to take it up the bung-hole like the miserable gutless cowards they all are: namely, that ALL victims of alleged "racism" (even those just off the plane from Nigeria!) are entitled to reps!

[togor]

CH, I believe that doing right is doing right, regardless of what others may say or do.

[clintonhater]

CH, I believe that doing right is doing right, regardless of what others may say or do.

"Doing right" is not achieved by kow-towing to professional racebaiters, who--like Sharpton, Jackson, & that POS with the queer name, make a good living out of victimhood.

But I'm NOT opposed to Dems ranting about reparations! Bring it on, I say, promote it on prime-time TV commercials! Unfortunately, I'm afraid they won't, at least until after the next election.

[togor]

"Doing right" is not achieved by kow-towing to professional racebaiters, who--like Sharpton, Jackson, & that POS with the queer name, make a good living out of victimhood.

But I'm NOT opposed to Dems ranting about reparations! Bring it on, I say, promote it on prime-time TV commercials! Unfortunately, I'm afraid they won't, at least until after the next election.

What constitutes a reparation to you? And what was simply the right thing to do? For example, was the Voting Rights Act fundamentally a bad idea or a good one? If there is a recurring theme in your posts, it's that everything was better when you were a boy. And yet it has been shown: it wasn't better for black people back then.

[clintonhater]

And yet it has been shown: it wasn't better for black people back then.

So "then" is "NOW"??? What Mitch McConnell attempted to point out, in his usual limp & ineffectual manner, is that NOTHING suffices to appease the professional race-baiters--not 360,000 Union casualties in the Civil War (whose descendants will presumably be expected to pay their share of reps), not all the equal rights laws passed since then, not a half-Kenyan President, & the greatest attempted (but unacknowledged, naturally) reparation of all, which Mitch was too stupid or cowardly to mention, the elevation of the King of Demagogues to the same special honor reserved for only ONE American President: a National Holiday!!! THINK OF IT: no national holiday for Jefferson, Lincoln, the Roosevelts, etc., or others of their distinction, but one set aside in the futile hope of placating the race-baiters!

[lyman]

I 'll add the I have worked with folks from Africa (black and white, and from as in born there), and had a neighbor from Africa,
he was a Neo Natal nurse, worked in a big local hospital,
he dealt with a lot of inner city types,

and he had no compassion for any of them,
he did at first, he admitted, but once he worked here a while and got to know the folks (both patients and coworkers) he was shocked, and admitted a bit ashamed to be around them,,,

he was a hoot to sit around and have a few beverages with,
he is also Gluten Intolerant, like my wife, so I would make sure there was some GF home made stuff to be had at the neighborhood get togethers, ,

[togor]

CH: then isn't now. But clearly you want to go back to the old ways. Certainly you have zero interest in identifying areas where blacks still have a harder road, just for being black. I mean, it still happens, but you don't want to hear about it. You have your own problems, after all.

Hey how about this for a reparation: change the rules so cops can't start blazing away at the first pang of fear? That they have to learn how to do the job without reflexively escalating at the first hint of resistance? We've seen those YouTube vids of cops pulled over for DUI, refusing to comply with instructions. How about a little of that patience for civilians too? Both black and white? Probably that's a reparation you could get behind, yes?

[S.A. Boggs]

CH: then isn't now. But clearly you want to go back to the old ways. Certainly you have zero interest in identifying areas where blacks still have a harder road, just for being black. I mean, it still happens, but you don't want to hear about it. You have your own problems, after all.

"People" are discriminated daily, not just with color. Not too long ago RKT made fun of me because I had chemo therapy. I have a companion animal, in EVERY new place I go I have to remind them that Wolf is not a pet. One cannot correct the past for injustices unless the actual person is still alive to accept the apology.
If "we" follow some peoples logic then most certainly the Democratic Party must be in the forefront along WITH ALL ITS CURRENT MEMBERS to cough up money. Slave owners were Democratic, so was their form of government. Post war the Democratic Party continued to enslave blacks with Jim Crow/poll tax laws. There were Dixicrats in the late 50's to oppose blacks having citizen rights. It was a Republican President who sent in the military to have blacks into schools. LBJ came on board because he knew where the votes are and the media when along with the Democratic Party now. Johnson said after the Civil Rights Act was passed, "Now the N****** will vote Democratic from now own!" and LBJ was right.
Togor, you are a Democratic National Socialist how much are you going to cough up to pay YOUR FAIR SHARE?
Sam

[clintonhater]

Hey how about this for a reparation: change the rules so cops can't start blazing away at the first pang of fear? That they have to learn how to do the job without reflexively escalating at the first hint of resistance? We've seen those YouTube vids of cops pulled over for DUI, refusing to comply with instructions. How about a little of that patience for civilians too? Both black and white? Probably that's a reparation you could get behind, yes?

NO!, if you mean insolent behavior by cops justifies the same from civilians. Any cop that refused to comply should be immediately suspended & fired ASAP. Though most cops who pulled over a "brother" would walk away as soon as he saw the other's badge; both should be fired if somehow the facts became known.

[Clark Howard]

The United States Department of Agriculture has been writing checks to black people who suspect that they might be related to a black person who farmed in the U.S any time in the last one hundred years. This, because some black farmers may have been overlooked for Federal farm assistance at some time during their lives. Most of the folks who are in favor of programs like this are the recipients of the cash, as well as the Mercedes-Benz and BMW dealers. No proof, or details of harm, is required to get in on this windfall, only black skin. Regards, Clark

[retread12345]

Sounds like a job for The UNITED NATIONS . !! I understand many of them still practice it .