Trump's controversial tweet

[S.A. Boggs]

If you're serious about Wolf this is what I do with my little one. He gets a partial diet of boiled chicken and rice for his pancreatitis along with this, made by Purina. It is basically the type cultures found in yogurt and help with digestion. It's not just for diarrhea. Cost about $45 at the vet or buy them on ebay (sealed) for half. My dog has been on these for about 10 years now.

https://www.proplanveterinarydiets.c...ic-supplement/

Wolf I very sensitive to what she see's, so I try and screen Wolf from the sad parts of life. Wolf just had a double cheeseburger, small fries and water for her lunch. For dinner is grilled chicken stripped of bones and cartilage with a baked potato and real Irish butter. Haven't decided if we will be doing green beans or peas. Wife and daughter both work late on Wed so Wolf and I eat at the same time. Usually Wolf eats before I do so that I can let her out after her dinner. This is Wolf with her desert, it is filled with Smuckers Natural peanut butter.
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[clintonhater]

CH, if you already think that...is it your own opinion that has been weaponized? Who really knows?

What does my "thinking" have to do with flagrantly one-sided reporting?

[Roadkingtrax]

What does my "thinking" have to do with flagrantly one-sided reporting?

You only THINK the media one sided, but what if it's not to someone else? (Not Me, btw) You're spouting your "self-evident" opinion, as everyone's objective opinion.

Easy answer is our perspectives, and our opinion of the media for that matter, are shaped by our individualized experiences. Perhaps it is you slanted by outside forces, and it's beyond your control to change?

[togor]

This exchange causes me to wonder:

1. What sort of thing would Trump have to utter for everyone to admit that "yeah, he's a pretty big racist"?
2. If he uttered it, would it matter? Or would people just say "Hey the founders were pretty big racists too. Even Lincoln"..?
3. If a time traveler came back from 100 years hence and said that in 2119 USA, no real economic or professional differences by ethnicity--is that good news or bad to people's 2019 ears?

[Roadkingtrax]

Togor, I'd say he can say ANYTHING. His primary support already knows he is not a man of principle. His principles are he has no principles. That's why, the next guy may be worse if he so chooses...from either political spectrum.

[clintonhater]

You only THINK the media one sided, but what if it's not to someone else? (Not Me, btw) You're spouting your "self-evident" opinion, as everyone's objective opinion.

So the fact that millions of citizens, including many elected officials, Do NOT BELIEVE the statement was racist (a statistical fact, not an opinion) imposes no ethical obligation on a supposedly objective media (what a laugh!) to report the incident as being at least subject to disagreement & controversy ? As opposed to reporting the story as if the whole world was unanimous in its "racist" interpretation of the comment?

[Sandpebble]

Well CH... maybe he should have just been a real leader of the United States of America..... and ignored them.

..... and used his unique opportunity to for the first time in many decades to unite Americans as one..... as a leader he's failing there .

Blame who you want for this issue... or " whattabout" all you want .... but as a leader who should unite us..... he ain't even trying

[Roadkingtrax]

So the fact that millions of citizens, including many elected officials, Do NOT BELIEVE the statement was racist (a statistical fact, not an opinion) imposes no ethical obligation on a supposedly objective media (what a laugh!) to report the incident as being at least subject to disagreement & controversy ? As opposed to reporting the story as if the whole world was unanimous in its "racist" interpretation of the comment?

There is media, and then there is entertainment media. Have you made that distinction here? To use only TV, If youre listening to anything other than the 5-6pm time slot garden variety evening news, you WILL wade into opinion either way.

For Example:
Rachel Maddow <--->Sean Hannity? They practice catharsis, it's about as slanted as you can get. One says Racist, one says Not Racist...also specific and measurable? I mean if watching one makes you feel better and one doesn't, its a quick bias check. They are both opinions, and they will never reach for the gray in any statement the way the average person should.

I certainly don't blame you for disliking the media, but show me a moment in American history where you would have been free of damaging opinion? John Adams used his post presidential life combating negative press about his public life. I assume you are an average American like the rest of us, how much time do you plan on fighting it?

[clintonhater]

I certainly don't blame you for disliking the media, but show me a moment in American history where you would have been free of damaging opinion?

The crucial difference is that in the past the "media" consisted of newspapers most of which were EXPLICITLY partisan, making no false, lying, hypocritical, pretense of "impartiality." SURELY you know this! And even more importantly, no single viewpoint or brand of politics dominated the press--on the same newsstand the public would see every element of the political spectrum represented...as opposed to the one lock-step voice of today's media, lonely Fox excepted.

[Sandpebble]

The crucial difference is that in the past the "media" consisted of newspapers most of which were EXPLICITLY partisan, making no false, lying, hypocritical, pretense of "impartiality." SURELY you know this! And even more importantly, no single viewpoint or brand of politics dominated the press--on the same newsstand the public would see every element of the political spectrum represented...as opposed to the one lock-step voice of today's media, lonely Fox excepted.

So... if I may ask a querry of not so long ago ....

who was spreading the word that Obama was going to take his oath of office on the Koran ? ..,,,

who was spreading the word of a Democrat pedophile ring operating out of a pizza joint ?... {well apart from fake media like Breitbert and government cabinet members}

get the point ?...... I could continue on and on if need

[togor]

CH, if your views were of a mainstream centrist nature then it would make sense for you to expect a 50-50 media experience. But by your own admission your views are skewed towards the extreme, so your media experience--most disagreeing with you--is exactly what you should expect. If 50-50 media is what you want to feel, then move your views towards the middle. In short, your media complaint is baseless.

[Roadkingtrax]

I certainly wouldn't call it baseless? Just...what do you do with something you dont agree with? Rail against it, ignore it,...?

[clintonhater]

get the point ?...... I could continue on and on if need

No I don't get the point. Lunatic fringe opinions like those you mentioned can always be dug up if you take the trouble of searching for them, but crackpot websites are not "mainstream media"--they're not even remotely equivalent to what is (unfortunately) most of the country's major source of national news reporting, the evening TV news programs of ABC, CBS, NBC, & PBS.

[clintonhater]

CH, if your views were of a mainstream centrist nature then it would make sense for you to expect a 50-50 media experience. But by your own admission your views are skewed towards the extreme, so your media experience--most disagreeing with you--is exactly what you should expect. If 50-50 media is what you want to feel, then move your views towards the middle. In short, your media complaint is baseless.

In short, you don't know what you're talking about--unless, like me, you're watching 2 hours of national TV news reporting every day, surfing from one channel to the next to hear almost all of the political garbage, which from one network to the next is almost identical, as if they're ALL reading from the same script, which in effect they are--the Far Left Manifesto. A foreigner watching this coverage must wonder "how did this enemy of the people, this racist criminal ever get elected?", because, according to the reporting they're hearing, the WHOLE COUNTRY (excepting a small handful of Nazis & Klansmen) opposes everything he's trying to do.

[S.A. Boggs]

In short, you don't know what you're talking about--unless, like me, you're watching 2 hours of national TV news reporting every day, surfing from one channel to the next to hear almost all of the political garbage, which from one network to the next is almost identical, as if they're ALL reading from the same script, which in effect they are--the Far Left Manifesto. A foreigner watching this coverage must wonder "how did this enemy of the people, this racist criminal ever get elected?", because, according to the reporting they're hearing, the WHOLE COUNTRY (excepting a small handful of Nazis & Klansmen) opposes everything he's trying to do.

Boy you have really hit a sore spot with our "squad" of ???
Sam