Militia Groups that are Quite O.K. With the Left

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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #1

    Militia Groups that are Quite O.K. With the Left

    When are militia groups training with A-Salt weapons OK with the "Progressive Left?"

    That would be when they are radical lefties training for the overthrow of capitalism.

    I remember listening to a gal on the news who was a radical leftist talking about how she might have to take up arms but admitting she not only knew absolutely nothing about firearms but didn't really like them.

    Well there is an answer to her problem. All she has to do is get in touch with two radical left wing Trotskyite gun organizations designed with people like her in mind. They are "Red Neck Revolt," and the "John Brown Gun Club," also known as the "John Brown Brigade." Not only are these groups very active training up lefties in the use of firearms as tools to their agenda they actively recruit folks like the young gal above who have the leftie aversion to guns to indoctrinate them into the need for firearms as an "instrument of revolution." Exact membership is unknown but is probably, between the two organizations, in the thousands, possibly more with branches in several states. These people aren't just prepping for Armageddon, they're prepping to cause Armageddon.

    I was blissfully ignorant of these organizations until a few weeks ago when I was checking out pro gun organizations on line. How could that be? Not a word about this crowd in the news. Could it be that the press which would be all over right wingers who identified with a "militia" is protecting these people from scrutiny by omission . I am truly not one of the tin foil hat brigade but I can only assume that the press is deliberately not reporting on the weapons training arm of ATIFA because ANTIFA is cool.
    Last edited by Art; 07-16-2019, 01:24.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Not sure where you're going with this, Art. Most logical guess would be an endorsement of the existence of right wing militias on the bare possibility that someday left wing militias might exist? Implicit in that assumption is the idea that the state and law enforcement are too weak to deal with the militia problem themselves, that the government of the people lacks the capacity to deal with the problem. I have to believe that as a retired LEO you don't like the sound of that either, so I don't know. But as a reminder of where things stand today, the right has the left heavily outgunned, and has the better of the body count.
    Last edited by togor; 07-16-2019, 01:28.

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    • Art
      Senior Member, Deceased
      • Dec 2009
      • 9256

      #3
      My point is the left is held to a vastly different standard. The other day an ANTIFA member armed with a bombs and a rifle attacked an ICE facility in Tacoma Washington and was promptly shot dead. Two of the major networks didn't cover it at all, in fact I pay attention and didn't learn about it until a good bit after the fact. The truth is, and its indisputable, lefty radical organizations are one of many protected classes by the media. Pull it up on line and you'll see a paucity of reporting on it except by non MSM sources.

      I'm not talking about who would win a fight, that, as you indicate, probably isn't even in doubt due not only to numbers but proficiency.
      Last edited by Art; 07-16-2019, 01:58.

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      • S.A. Boggs
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 8568

        #4
        Originally posted by Art
        My point is the left is held to a vastly different standard. The other day an ANTIFA member armed with a bombs and a rifle attacked an ICE facility in Tacoma Washington and was promptly shot dead. Two of the major networks didn't cover it at all, in fact I pay attention and didn't learn about it until a good bit after the fact. The truth is, and its indisputable, lefty radical organizations are one of many protected classes by the media. Pull it up on line and you'll see a paucity of reporting on it except by non MSM sources.

        I'm not talking about who would win a fight, that, as you indicate, probably isn't even in doubt due not only to numbers but proficiency.
        When it comes down to arms compare the lefties to the cub scouts and the right to the Army...a bid difference. Every lefty I know/knew were abhorred by firearms, including police firearms.
        Sam

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          I saw the news on that so it isn't like it wasn't covered. Nobody besides the attacker was killed which might make a difference. Has anyone in politics expressed a disagreement with the outcome?

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          • JohnPeeff
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 252

            #6
            The problem is not disagreement on the outcome, the problem is silence on the outcome by the democrats.

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            • Art
              Senior Member, Deceased
              • Dec 2009
              • 9256

              #7
              Originally posted by John Peeff
              The problem is not disagreement on the outcome, the problem is silence on the outcome by the democrats.
              Exactly....

              The problem is the Democrats call the NRA a terrorist organization with regularity. They are silent on, or apologize for, a real terrorist organization. That was the point which I don't seem to have made well.
              Last edited by Art; 07-16-2019, 05:43.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                The problem with scoring outrage is there is stupid sh*t going down in all directions, and nobody can be perfect with their expressions of outrage.



                Local reporting is invaluable. According to this account the guy was a bit of a nut and this was suicide by cop, with a flourish. How many mass shooters have been dismissed as mere nuts in the media by some, while others point to them as examples of a broader problem?

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                • Art
                  Senior Member, Deceased
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9256

                  #9
                  Well, it would be a little hard for a newspaper in Seattle to ignore a bombing and shooting in Tacoma.

                  The guy was a documented member of ANTIFA photographed in ANTIFA garb with ANTIFA members. I suppose that makes him a nut by definition.

                  By the way, the Pacific Northwest is a hot bed of activity for this group and its associates and they are not only tolerated but apparently approved of by at least some of the authorities. The poor reporter who was singled out at an ANTIFA rally in Oregon and barely escaped with his life got no help at all and police assigned to the event were at best in minimal numbers and ineffective. You definitely don't want to be around this lot if they are out in numbers decide you're part of the problem.

                  "Suicide by cop" can mean more than one thing. It can mean that a person wants to provoke the police to kill him and that's the end game. It can also mean that the person is going to commit an act of violence, almost always political violence, which he knows he will almost surely not survive; that seems to be the case here. This old boy was pretty geriatric so this may have been his last donation to the cause.
                  Last edited by Art; 07-16-2019, 07:09.

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                  • JohnPeeff
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 252

                    #10
                    This guy was not only a documented member of Antifa, he was interviewed on CNN and treated sympathetically .The wackos on both sides should be "named and shamed" unfortunately you can't count on the mainstream media to do it.

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #11
                      It was only a matter of time -- these Brown Shirts are going to kill a lot of people, count on it.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Well Art, according to wikipedia there are these guys:



                        which supposedly are about:
                        incite a movement amongst working people that works toward the total liberation of all working people, regardless of skin color, religious background, sexual orientation, gender, country of birth, or any other division that bosses and politicians have used to fragment movements for social, political, and economic freedom.
                        But that sounds more Bolshevik than Nazi, if we're using 1920's analogies. Nothing said about # of members. With the internet it could be 25 guys and you couldn't tell.

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8568

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                          It was only a matter of time -- these Brown Shirts are going to kill a lot of people, count on it.
                          I saw news reporters asking some of the "gang" to refute Antifa and was met with silence. @ the rate that the left throws lies and unfound criticism to the right, violence will occur! The left has already tried to murder Republican members of Congress, go physically after ICE who are doing their job in protecting the Republic. The left is lighting a fuse that has the ability to totally destroy them! I do not want to see a modern Civil War or a 2nd Revolution and I am afraid that it has already begun. When the President is re-elected I can see the left's venom increasing to a point of no return.
                          Sam

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                          • Roadkingtrax
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 7835

                            #14
                            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                            I saw news reporters asking some of the "gang" to refute Antifa and was met with silence. @ the rate that the left throws lies and unfound criticism to the right, violence will occur! The left has already tried to murder Republican members of Congress, go physically after ICE who are doing their job in protecting the Republic. The left is lighting a fuse that has the ability to totally destroy them! I do not want to see a modern Civil War or a 2nd Revolution and I am afraid that it has already begun. When the President is re-elected I can see the left's venom increasing to a point of no return.
                            Sam
                            How would you like to see the present state of affairs resolved?

                            Offering these opposing incendiary remarks isn't exactly adding to a solution, is it?
                            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #15
                              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                              I saw news reporters asking some of the "gang" to refute Antifa and was met with silence. @ the rate that the left throws lies and unfound criticism to the right, violence will occur! The left has already tried to murder Republican members of Congress, go physically after ICE who are doing their job in protecting the Republic. The left is lighting a fuse that has the ability to totally destroy them! I do not want to see a modern Civil War or a 2nd Revolution and I am afraid that it has already begun. When the President is re-elected I can see the left's venom increasing to a point of no return.
                              Sam
                              Sam, you are right. One way or another, the left will destroy this country.

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