Winston's thought on this matter.

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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #1

    Winston's thought on this matter.

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    Sam
  • free1954
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1165

    #2
    yes indeed. we could use a man like him again. and teddy Roosevelt also.

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    • Roadkingtrax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 7835

      #3
      This quote is not attributed to Winston Churchill, and first appeared in meme form (see above) after 2015. The quote might make you feel you're right, but at least do some checking before propagating false history.
      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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      • S.A. Boggs
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 8568

        #4
        National Socialist Democrats "feel" for those who will oppress America, who will destroy our way of life to replace it will worse. IMHO those who oppose our Republic are nothing less then traitors on the same lever as General Arnold in our Revolutionary War!
        Sam

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
          The quote might make you feel you're right, but at least do some checking before propagating false history.
          False history is the only kind he knows. His incoherent National Socialist rants are proof of that.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #6
            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
            National Socialist Democrats "feel" for those who will oppress America, who will destroy our way of life to replace it will worse. IMHO those who oppose our Republic are nothing less then traitors on the same lever as General Arnold in our Revolutionary War!
            Sam
            Except that Benedict Arnold actually FOUGHT on our side and lost a leg. These National Socialists haven't does squat!

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              False history is the only kind he knows. His incoherent National Socialist rants are proof of that.
              All I can do is help him get better, but you know he resists learning.
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                All I can do is help him get better, but you know he resists learning.
                Sometimes an old jar never washes clean.

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                  Except that Benedict Arnold actually FOUGHT on our side and lost a leg. These National Socialists haven't does squat!
                  To borrow your phrase Vern, National Socialists do squat on the truth and don't care a darn about it. If one ever notices "them" walking, "they" always start out on "their" left foot.
                  Sam

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Fun fact about Winston Churchill. He was a big believer in collective security, and at one time called for a United States of Europe. How does that fit the current narrative?

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                    Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                    To borrow your phrase Vern, National Socialists do squat on the truth and don't care a darn about it. If one ever notices "them" walking, "they" always start out on "their" left foot.
                    Sam
                    Boggs, squat on the truth? Who posted a bogus attribution to Churchill. Are you truly that thick?

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                    • JohnPeeff
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 252

                      #11
                      Who did say it, the quote?

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                      • S.A. Boggs
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 8568

                        #12
                        Originally posted by John Peeff
                        Who did say it, the quote?
                        John, since I no longer read/care about what our National Socialist say "who cares?"
                        Sam

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          John, there's nothing all that profound in that quote, but there is a hint of general truth to it. Any religion that gets a solid majority tends to be tough as nails on the competition. But when they're clearly in the minority then adherents tend to emphasize the meeker side of belief. Anywhere you look in time and space you see that....Catholics and Protestants, Buddhists (Myanmar and Sri Lanka), Hindus (India), Muslims (lots of places), Jews (Israel). It's in the nature of the beast, since no faith can be proven to anything close to reasonable doubt, which is why we call them "faiths". If the USA ends up with a plurality of religions but none of them dominating the field, then it might be the best outcome possible.

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                          • blackhawknj
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                            • Aug 2011
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                            #14
                            Winston did say:
                            "But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance." The Story of the Malakand Field Force. (1898)

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                            • Roadkingtrax
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 7835

                              #15
                              Originally posted by blackhawknj
                              Winston did say:
                              "But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance." The Story of the Malakand Field Force. (1898)


                              Indeed, that is a "real" quote, and is woefully different in intention than the false quote from the OP.

                              We certainly know the resolve of our adversaries in our foolhardy expenditure of men, material, and monetary funds in the prolonged presence in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

                              Further expanded, "Indeed it is evident that Christianity, however degraded and distorted by cruelty and intolerance, must always exert a modifying influence on men’s passions, and protect them from the more violent forms of fanatical fever, as we are protected from smallpox by vaccination. But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance. It was originally propagated by the sword, and ever since its votaries have been subject, above the people of all other creeds, to this form of madness. In a moment the fruits of patient toil, the prospects of material prosperity, the fear of death itself, are flung aside. The more emotional Pathans are powerless to resist. All rational considerations are forgotten. Seizing their weapons, they become Ghazis—as dangerxous and as sensible as mad dogs: fit only to be treated as such. While the more generous spirits among the tribesmen become convulsed in an ecstasy of religious bloodxthirstiness, poorer and more material souls derive additional impulses from the influence of others, the hopes of plunder and the joy of fighting. Thus whole nations are roused to arms. Thus the Turks repel their enemies, the Arabs of the Soudan break the British squares, and the rising on the Indian frontier spreads far and wide. In each case civilisation is confronted with militant Mahommedanism. The forces of progress clash with those of reaction. The religion of blood and war is face to face with that of peace. Luckily the religion of peace is usually the better armed.
                              —The Story of the Malakand Field Force (1898)"
                              Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 07-28-2019, 12:13.
                              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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