Newest "racially insensitive" word.

[Allen]

One can be "born" here and be anti-American in deed and thought

Some are on this forum though they probably weren't born here.

Commie Bernie Sanders said Baltimore was like a third world nation but not a thing was said of it. Trump said Baltimore is infested with rats and crime (which it is) and suddenly he is a racist. Is RAT a race now?

[clintonhater]

You got this, CH? I once asked you to defined what you meant by "the American way of life is under attack" and you took a pass.

Because it's stupidly self-evident to anyone who doesn't dismiss, devalue, hold in contempt, American history & culture & traditions, as YOU do! It's the predominantly WHITE Judeo-Christian civilization, with its deepest roots in ancient Greece & Rome, brought to this continent by Europeans, from which cultural base it evolved socially, chiefly by eliminating the rigid class distinctions of Europe. (NOT that clear class distinctions didn't remain; the difference was they were highly permeable.)

To dredge up, as liberals always do, the trivial cultural additions (or rather, SUBTRACTIONS) made by those NOT part of this great European cultural mainstream, the same one that created what we call "the modern world," is to claim you've raised the level of the ocean by pissing in it.

[togor]

Because it's stupidly self-evident to anyone who doesn't dismiss, devalue, hold in contempt, American history & culture & traditions, as YOU do! It's the predominantly WHITE Judeo-Christian civilization, with its deepest roots in ancient Greece & Rome, brought to this continent by Europeans, from which cultural base it evolved socially, chiefly by eliminating the rigid class distinctions of Europe. (NOT that clear class distinctions didn't remain; the difference was they were highly permeable.)

And upon whose shoulders did Europe stand? Southwest Asia. This is where writing was invented, where all of the important food crops of Europe (prior to incorporation of North American varieties which were domesticated here first), came from. Not to knock Europe, but historically that region is but one link in a long and branching chain in the story of H. sapiens. You like to pretend that time didn't exist before the Greco-Roman era of antiquity. Now on the subject of class distinctions, there of course is the one really big class distinction that was practiced in the new world, right? Slave or Free? I could go on, and you'd claim that it's proof that I hate America. But since when is discussing unfinished business an expression of hate? However we got here, we are now a multi-ethnic society, with roots across Eurasia and Africa both. What better answer is there than to figure out how to make something new, together? What's the better alternative? Political divisiveness leading to race-based skirmishes? I think the founders gave us an outstanding start, and if non-Euros pick up on it, both here and abroad, then good for them. If you think that Euro ethnicity is somehow necessary for the venture to be worthwhile, then I think you're doomed for yet one more disappointment in life. On the other hand, if I got you all wrong, then now's a good time to set me straight. Go for it.

Oh and besides that, CH, let's try this: tell us the year that your preferred civilization, the one that you feel has been allowed to fall into shabby disrepair, was at its peak. Nearest decade is good enough if there isn't a specific year that comes to mind.

[S.A. Boggs]

Because it's stupidly self-evident to anyone who doesn't dismiss, devalue, hold in contempt, American history & culture & traditions, as YOU do! It's the predominantly WHITE Judeo-Christian civilization, with its deepest roots in ancient Greece & Rome, brought to this continent by Europeans, from which cultural base it evolved socially, chiefly by eliminating the rigid class distinctions of Europe. (NOT that clear class distinctions didn't remain; the difference was they were highly permeable.)

To dredge up, as liberals always do, the trivial cultural additions (or rather, SUBTRACTIONS) made by those NOT part of this great European cultural mainstream, the same one that created what we call "the modern world," is to claim you've raised the level of the ocean by pissing in it.

Slavery is an offshoot of armed conflict when two opposing forces would meet. With the defeated enemy there are three choices to be made with the defeated foe. 1] Let them go, not always a good idea as they can come back on you at a later date. 2] Kill all of them, not always possible to do. If the enemy knows it is do or die what choice as the end result is obvious with no way out. 3] Enslavement, @ least one is still alive to ponder future courses of action. Slavery in and of itself is color/sex/age blind. If black people had not caught other black people would the slave trade to the New World flourish, possible not. White slave traders went to the cost of Africa and bartered goods to blacks for their black captives and brought the human trade goods to America, that is history.
Slavery ended in America in 1865 with the defeat of the Southern States in rebellion. Black had/have the ability for mobility to a certain extent, I agree there was/is often impediments. America just had a bi-racial President, blacks serve in all branches of government, yet blacks continue to live in enforced poverty/crime ridden areas of the large cities. Billions of dollars have been spent in the large cities to apparently no avail. Does government continue to place tax dollars at the large city disposal with continuing negative results?
Apparently what the Federal Government has been doing for over 50 years is not working, so why do it? Some people are what they are by choice and there is no denying it. Take an inner city youth out of their environment and offer change, most will not take it a small percentage will. I taught school in a JDF and I did things differently then the other teaches, same as I did with my anti-socials and I got positive results. Money is a bandage to an open would that is continuing to fester and the demoncratic response is to try and apply more leaches!
Sam

[lyman]

can someone provide a link to what he said this time?

been out of town at a gunshow this past weekend, not current on today's news



and BTW, Trump could say the Sun is bright today, and tomorrows headlines would read 'Trump promotes skin cancer'...

[Roadkingtrax]

Gaslighting and Feigning Outrage, what else?

As an American citizen, it's all bit exhausting. As an independent voter, it will be another game time decision in 2020.

[barretcreek]

Who controls the language controls the dialogue.

[Vern Humphrey]

Who controls the language controls the dialogue.

You got that right. Which is why we should not LET them control the language. Refuse to accept their anal-retentive standards.

[clintonhater]

I think the founders gave us an outstanding start, and if non-Euros pick up on it, both here and abroad, then good for them. If you think that Euro ethnicity is somehow necessary for the venture to be worthwhile, then I think you're doomed for yet one more disappointment in life.

Let's try this experiment: give complete control of a major American city, one with many natural advantages, not dependent on a single industry like steel or auto making, once one of the most prosperous, to the "non-Euros" & find out what they can do with it. That experiment has already been tried--it's name is Baltimore.

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Oh and besides that, CH, let's try this: tell us the year that your preferred civilization, the one that you feel has been allowed to fall into shabby disrepair, was at its peak. Nearest decade is good enough if there isn't a specific year that comes to mind.

That's easy: the downhill slide began in the '60s with both the (so-called) civil rights & anti-war movements.

[clintonhater]

You got that right. Which is why we should not LET them control the language.

Problem is, "they"--the far left--exercises almost complete control over the major media outlets, print & TV. Which gives them the power to change the meaning of a word like "infest" or "hang" by imposing their meaning on it relentlessly, in every news report, day after day.

[Vern Humphrey]

Problem is, "they"--the far left--exercises almost complete control over the major media outlets, print & TV. Which gives them the power to change the meaning of a word like "infest" or "hang" by imposing their meaning on it relentlessly, in every news report, day after day.

But we don't have to accept it -- and we should challenge them at every opportunity.

[S.A. Boggs]

Demoncrats want to demonize those who oppose their ideation, not caring this is what they are doing to their own people. "African-American" why should I care about this type of person, means nothing to me. Now an American who is black, then this American means everything to me. Same as the words "abortion" for murdering children, "gay" for homosexual. One is either born female, male, or morphydite. Anything else is idiot made and labeled which I ignore as void.
Sam

[blackhawknj]

The Experiment would be to give control of a large city to a conservative government that carries out conservative policies-and upholds conservative values.

[Roadkingtrax]

The Experiment would be to give control of a large city to a conservative government that carries out conservative policies-and upholds conservative values.

What types of tools would you use to enforce that standard of large city? If there's anything universal, it's when you get a large population together, you're not going to have unanimity.

[togor]

So CH, the country started going downhill when blacks stood up (non-violently, overwhelmingly) for their rights?

Here is a great web site for people interested in how it worked in the old days, when CH's uncivil civilization was at its zenith. There are some great examples. Readers are equipped to judge for themselves if things were really better.

https://www.crmvet.org/info/lithome.htm

Now Vietnam. You know how you think (correctly, IMO) that the Iraq war was a bad move? Well was Vietnam any better? True the hippies protested because they personally didn't want to stop grooving out on life, which is a defining move for that most insufferable of generations, the baby-boomers. But not everyone who opposed the war was a boomer hippy. We know now that the war was a bad idea, and what's more, that the country's leadership knew it too but couldn't admit it to the public.

Gonna go out on a limb and say that you liked that time better because you were a young man. Makes perfect sense to me.