Russian influence

[PWC]

Joseph Stalin - "It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

We've had Russian influence in our elections for a long time...remember the hanging chad...In AZ, McSally was winning on election night, but 'they' discovered several bags of uncounted votes, ans Senema won. I know there have been others similar around the country, but don't remember the specifics.

and

"Death is the solution to all problems. No man - no problem." Sounds like another recent event in NY City, but I hope Barr proves Stalin wrong.

[dryheat]

I'm so naive. I like to believe that everything is on the up and up. That has bit me in the ass before. But my experience in the business world may not be the same as we see in politics. Wait; let's see now, business; Politics; Hmmm, maybe I'm being naive again. Never-the -less, I believe, I believe, I believe. Exhibit A: Trump was elected(you can thank the electorial college, yeah that). Hard to argue with that. Maybe it would have pushed the balance to far if he hadn't been. Maybe it's a higher power that determines election results. Did you see "The adjustment Bureau"? Movie with Matt Damon. It's a great date movie, but you wonder sometimes. I do(not really).

[Clark Howard]

The dems are so well known for their election fraud antics that it has become a cliche. The Party certainly needs no foreign help to queer an election.

[S.A. Boggs]

The dems are so well known for their election fraud antics that it has become a cliche. The Party certainly needs no foreign help to queer an election.

Demoncrats need to support queers and their agenda, look @ Illinois.
Sam

[dogtag]

Al Franken lost by about 300 votes. After recount he won by a similar number.

[pmclaine]

The biggest threat to our Republic may be the tech giants Google/Facebook.

They are pretty much on record stating they are working to influence elections and have a decided political ideology (Project Veritas), a whistle blower is currently stating same but not getting much air time because - Main Stream Media does not want his message to get out, Their alliances and what they have done in China show they are evil anti freedom organizations.

Russians are pikers compared to silicon valley when it comes to ruining free and fair elections.

[togor]

So the consensus is that we should simply shrug at the fact that some election officials are still running Windows 7 or even XP machines with known vulnerabilities in a climate where Russian hackers have probed election systems in all 50 states? If we're shrugging at stuff like this, why give a crap about voter rolls? At least be consistent about it.

[S.A. Boggs]

The biggest threat to our Republic may be the tech giants Google/Facebook.

They are pretty much on record stating they are working to influence elections and have a decided political ideology (Project Veritas), a whistle blower is currently stating same but not getting much air time because - Main Stream Media does not want his message to get out, Their alliances and what they have done in China show they are evil anti freedom organizations.

Russians are pikers compared to silicon valley when it comes to ruining free and fair elections.

Does one understand/care that these companies lean National Socialist?
Sam

[togor]

(Project Veritas), a whistle blower is currently stating same but not getting much air time because - Main Stream Media does not want his message to get out, Their alliances and what they have done in China show they are evil anti freedom organizations.

O'Keefe? Isn't he the guy who tried to feed a bogus Roy Moore story to the Washington Post, only to have it blow up in his face? I'll believe Christmas comes in July before I take anything of his seriously. As for China--how did Trump describe Hong Kong to Xi? An "internal matter". Again, be consistent.

[pmclaine]

So the consensus is that we should simply shrug at the fact that some election officials are still running Windows 7 or even XP machines with known vulnerabilities in a climate where Russian hackers have probed election systems in all 50 states? If we're shrugging at stuff like this, why give a crap about voter rolls? At least be consistent about it.

No its been proven that electronics systems of every type have or can be hacked. The most vulnerable of all are the "lowest bidder" govt systems.

Commercial and financial institutions that spend lots of money on Informations systems security and face financial government sanctions are not even immune from hackers.

We need what the left argues against as it will prevent their stealing elections.

Paper ballots with scan counting machines, ballots counted in the presence of representative certifiers of the vote. The vote count should not be subcontracted out some private bidder.

Ballots would only be provided to lawful voters with photo ID.

You argue for putting cheap $5 trigger locks on the guns in the safe while prohibiting us to lock the door on the safe itself.

Than crazy schemes such as "ranked choice voting" or abrogation of the "Electoral College" process through local "Popular Vote" preference should be ruled unconstitutional.

Ranked Choice voting is going to create a system of packing the candidate field to ensure no majority winner and the seat will go to the party that can water the field down the most with weak people that can only get a percent of the vote.

Negating the Electoral College process disenfranchises the local voters in favor of large population centers with different interests and concerns.

The consensus is the democommunists are promoters and endorsers of the voting dead.

[pmclaine]

O'Keefe? Isn't he the guy who tried to feed a bogus Roy Moore story to the Washington Post, only to have it blow up in his face? I'll believe Christmas comes in July before I take anything of his seriously. As for China--how did Trump describe Hong Kong to Xi? An "internal matter". Again, be consistent.

Wont argue Okeefe may have taken a page out of the democommunist play book.....its a classic communist play....that hero of the left the coup plotter Comey admitted he himself was a "lying leaker" to the news.

Thing about OKeefe though is the power of what he produces where he says nothing.

He provides film with the communists providing all the speech for your "lying" eyes to see for yourself....whether its an abortion clinic joking and dissecting babies for profit or a Google exec saying they are committed to election interference, or a commucrat saying a govt program was designed to fail,......its not Okeefes words its the actual communist stating on film truth

or did he give them a script and supply dead babies for those films as part of his scheme?

[pmclaine]

PS - Looks like Trump is working on the Hong Kong problem with some tact...using both trade and putting the spotlight on the issue to tie Chinas hands from going Tiannamen Square again.

Unlike Obam that left the Iranians hanging in the wind or kept drawing new red lines in Syria when Assad would step over his first one.......Considered ISIS a JV team.

If Obam could have only assured Medvedev that he could be even more flexible after his third election victory....what would that have looked like......a pretzel would have been awed by his bending over.

[togor]

The O'Keefe method is to ask enough incriminating questions, and to leave the secret cameras rolling long enough, until you get something that you can twist to make your presumptive point. No different than what corrupt cops do to twist a confession out of whoever it is they like for the crime. Actual guilt is not a prerequisite in either circumstance. And again, consistency. Don't like it when O'Keefe does it, but dislike it if Mueller does it (so goes the claim).

[pmclaine]

The O'Keefe method is to ask enough incriminating questions, and to leave the secret cameras rolling long enough, until you get something that you can twist to make your presumptive point. No different than what corrupt cops do to twist a confession out of whoever it is they like for the crime. Actual guilt is not a prerequisite in either circumstance. And again, consistency. Don't like it when O'Keefe does it, but dislike it if Mueller does it (so goes the claim).

Not even close......

Okeefe did nothing to get the operator of the baby parts mill to exclaim how excited she was to be getting a new sports car via her gruesome work.

Spin it any way you want it still smells like something farmers spread on their fields.